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The person above you is not wrong. Objectively people who fawn over Musks wealth and achievements without commenting on his nefarious qualities and blatant ille

The person above you is not wrong. Objectively people who fawn over Musks wealth and achievements without commenting on his nefarious qualities and blatant illegal behaviour recently need a reality check.

misiti3780 1y ago
you need to break some eggs to make an omelette. it's not a coincidence that he is landing skyscrapers while you're talking shit about him on HN.
- toss1 1y ago
  Yes, you need to break some eggs to make an omelette, but you do not need to spend more than a quarter-Billion dollars to help elect an administration working to end democracy in order to build a new spacecraft. In fact the spacecraft development would likely go better without any political intervention at all; it is widely seen as a distraction, and rightly so.
  - misiti3780 1y ago
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    - toss1 1y ago
      Nice offtopic whataboutism tic you have there... The point was that it is and was completely unnecessary for the particular omlette of making new self-landing spacecraft to break the particular eggs of spending all that time and money on politics. They are two entirely different pursuits, negating the GP comment. As for Harris, you are comparing an exaggerated number for total campaign spend to Musk's $250-$400 million spending as a single donor to a campaign in which he was not running. Comparing apples-to-apples, the Trump and Harris campaigns spent comparable amounts [0], and that is officially, not counting the massive media coverage Trump obtains for free. [0] https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c09e https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c...
      - King-Aaron 1y ago
        It should be noted also, that to normal people, the answer is yes - any politician wasting taxpayer money is a huge problem. It is absurd when people bring up the whataboutism as if everyone is as politically biased as they themselves are.
        misiti3780 1y ago
        I'm not politically biased. I'm an independent and didn't like either candidate in 2024
      - misiti3780 1y ago
        Elon said the reason he spent that money was because he thought a Harris presidency would be a disaster for the country, worse than a 2nd Trump presidency. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it "nefarious" and "blatantly illegal." I actually don't particularly like Elon and I don't like Trump or Harris and didn't vote for either. I also have no issues pointing out his accomplishments. I was pointing out that every time SpaceX or Tesla do something cool, people like you show up and have to make it political, which is super annoying and possibly a violation of the HN guidelines.
- King-Aaron 1y ago
  Does it need to be a competition in your eyes? Is allowing root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure for his cronies and removing funding for organisations investigating his companies for wrongdoing the necessary broken eggs to land a flying skyscraper? I don't understand why 'the ends justify the means' is a good answer.
  - misiti3780 1y ago
    "root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure" - link to what you are referring to please?
    - King-Aaron 1y ago
      I am sure you haven't been living under a rock during the DOGE debacle.
dotnet00 1y ago
Not every mention of Musk needs to be accompanied by a disclaimer of not supporting his idiotic self-defeating politics. This isn't reddit. Speaking of politics though, it was a bit jarring to see the "USA! USA!" chanting. I get the intent (disliking the government doesn't mean disliking America), but it's kind of awkward to see a large crowd of immigrants doing it as the admin their boss supports is pretty blatantly harassing immigrants regardless of citizenship.
- misiti3780 1y ago
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  - potato3732842 1y ago
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    - firesteelrain 1y ago
      Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit It’s in the HN guidelines
      - potato3732842 1y ago
        What part of "hn isn't becoming reddit it's always a fixed distance from it" was unclear? JFC.
  - firesteelrain 1y ago
    “ Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. ” Link: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - misiti3780 1y ago
      sorry :) wont do it again.

misiti3780 1y ago

you need to break some eggs to make an omelette. it's not a coincidence that he is landing skyscrapers while you're talking shit about him on HN.

toss1 1y ago
Yes, you need to break some eggs to make an omelette, but you do not need to spend more than a quarter-Billion dollars to help elect an administration working to end democracy in order to build a new spacecraft. In fact the spacecraft development would likely go better without any political intervention at all; it is widely seen as a distraction, and rightly so.
- misiti3780 1y ago
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  - toss1 1y ago
    Nice offtopic whataboutism tic you have there... The point was that it is and was completely unnecessary for the particular omlette of making new self-landing spacecraft to break the particular eggs of spending all that time and money on politics. They are two entirely different pursuits, negating the GP comment. As for Harris, you are comparing an exaggerated number for total campaign spend to Musk's $250-$400 million spending as a single donor to a campaign in which he was not running. Comparing apples-to-apples, the Trump and Harris campaigns spent comparable amounts [0], and that is officially, not counting the massive media coverage Trump obtains for free. [0] https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c09e https://www.ft.com/content/c3613e1b-c15d-47b8-a502-400c4114c...
    - King-Aaron 1y ago
      It should be noted also, that to normal people, the answer is yes - any politician wasting taxpayer money is a huge problem. It is absurd when people bring up the whataboutism as if everyone is as politically biased as they themselves are.
      - misiti3780 1y ago
        I'm not politically biased. I'm an independent and didn't like either candidate in 2024
    - misiti3780 1y ago
      Elon said the reason he spent that money was because he thought a Harris presidency would be a disaster for the country, worse than a 2nd Trump presidency. You may not agree with it, but that doesn't make it "nefarious" and "blatantly illegal." I actually don't particularly like Elon and I don't like Trump or Harris and didn't vote for either. I also have no issues pointing out his accomplishments. I was pointing out that every time SpaceX or Tesla do something cool, people like you show up and have to make it political, which is super annoying and possibly a violation of the HN guidelines.
King-Aaron 1y ago
Does it need to be a competition in your eyes? Is allowing root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure for his cronies and removing funding for organisations investigating his companies for wrongdoing the necessary broken eggs to land a flying skyscraper? I don't understand why 'the ends justify the means' is a good answer.
- misiti3780 1y ago
  "root-level access to the nations critical government infrastructure" - link to what you are referring to please?
  - King-Aaron 1y ago
    I am sure you haven't been living under a rock during the DOGE debacle.

dotnet00 1y ago

Not every mention of Musk needs to be accompanied by a disclaimer of not supporting his idiotic self-defeating politics. This isn't reddit. Speaking of politics though, it was a bit jarring to see the "USA! USA!" chanting. I get the intent (disliking the government doesn't mean disliking America), but it's kind of awkward to see a large crowd of immigrants doing it as the admin their boss supports is pretty blatantly harassing immigrants regardless of citizenship.

misiti3780 1y ago
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- potato3732842 1y ago
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  - firesteelrain 1y ago
    Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit It’s in the HN guidelines
    - potato3732842 1y ago
      What part of "hn isn't becoming reddit it's always a fixed distance from it" was unclear? JFC.
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  “ Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. ” Link: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - misiti3780 1y ago
    sorry :) wont do it again.