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I've not seen Apple launch a half baked product in quite a long time, not like the crap that, for instance, google still ships and calls "android". iOS Maps wi

by nirvana 14y ago

I've not seen Apple launch a half baked product in quite a long time, not like the crap that, for instance, google still ships and calls "android". iOS Maps with its first iteration is far better than google maps, after 8 years. The company is not perfect, but the idea that something is "half backed" is just standard issue FUD from the apple bashers. Remember how the iPod was going to fail? The iPhone had "no chance"? The iPas "just a big ipod touch" and "reminds me of a feminine product?" I really wonder if people foget all this nonsense. Remember "antennagate" and consume rreports selling out its integrity and honor for page views? Noticed a pattern?

pooriaazimi 14y ago
Nirvana: I usually (50-60% of the time) agree with your comments here on HN, but this time... I disagree with your first, second, third, fourth and fifth paragraphs (too much hyperbole!). Android might've been bad, but is quite allright now (in many areas, including "intents" it's far ahead of iOS. Though in ease of use, ease of development and things like Core2D/CoreData lags behind iOS). iOS maps is good IMO, but worse than current GMaps. The company is not infallible. Apple has the best advertisement of any company (IMO), but remember those unbelievably stupid and corny Olympics ads?
- nirvana 14y ago
  I don't really care to debate it with you, because despite making a compelling argument-- that people always bash apple products when they first come out, including several notalbe examples (iPod, iPad, iPhone) where people said they were terrible... my "crime" of not bashing Apple and pointing out that android sucks (and it does. people use it for ideological reasons, I'm convinced, or because they've never used an iPhone.) my comment is sitting at -4. HN is a site overrun with mindless, ideologically driven jerks. Your comment was fair, but the censorship means that only ideologically approved opinions are seen, and everything else is cut, so there's no point in participating here at all.
  - tisme 14y ago
    You're being silly. A very large majority of HN users use Apple products in one form or another. I can't speak for the rest but I am just not automatically going to accept each and every thing that any entity does as good. And that includes Apple. If you think everybody around you is an idiot on a forum that contains an extremely large number of well educated and tactful people then I think you should consider the possibility that the problem lies with you. Calling the majority of HN "mindless ideologically driven jerks" is collective name-calling, something that is simply not done here. If there is 'no point in participating here at all' then why do you continue with your endless non-coherent tirades?

by nirvana 14y ago

pooriaazimi 14y ago

Nirvana: I usually (50-60% of the time) agree with your comments here on HN, but this time... I disagree with your first, second, third, fourth and fifth paragraphs (too much hyperbole!). Android might've been bad, but is quite allright now (in many areas, including "intents" it's far ahead of iOS. Though in ease of use, ease of development and things like Core2D/CoreData lags behind iOS). iOS maps is good IMO, but worse than current GMaps. The company is not infallible. Apple has the best advertisement of any company (IMO), but remember those unbelievably stupid and corny Olympics ads?

nirvana 14y ago
I don't really care to debate it with you, because despite making a compelling argument-- that people always bash apple products when they first come out, including several notalbe examples (iPod, iPad, iPhone) where people said they were terrible... my "crime" of not bashing Apple and pointing out that android sucks (and it does. people use it for ideological reasons, I'm convinced, or because they've never used an iPhone.) my comment is sitting at -4. HN is a site overrun with mindless, ideologically driven jerks. Your comment was fair, but the censorship means that only ideologically approved opinions are seen, and everything else is cut, so there's no point in participating here at all.
- tisme 14y ago
  You're being silly. A very large majority of HN users use Apple products in one form or another. I can't speak for the rest but I am just not automatically going to accept each and every thing that any entity does as good. And that includes Apple. If you think everybody around you is an idiot on a forum that contains an extremely large number of well educated and tactful people then I think you should consider the possibility that the problem lies with you. Calling the majority of HN "mindless ideologically driven jerks" is collective name-calling, something that is simply not done here. If there is 'no point in participating here at all' then why do you continue with your endless non-coherent tirades?