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For me, it's not about ricing. I find Omarchy to be an incredibly productive setup, from the launchers for webapps to the focus on TUIs. I'm conflicted about t

For me, it's not about ricing. I find Omarchy to be an incredibly productive setup, from the launchers for webapps to the focus on TUIs. I'm conflicted about the drama and still learning more about it, so not ready to draw a conclusion yet. But Omarchy is definitely a very, very fun experience for me. Granted, I've heavily customized it and am using hy3 for i3-like capabilities, so whatever path out of this for me is likely to i3wm or sway. And, fwiw, I've been running linux since the late 90s, and most of that as my primary OS (with a decade-ish period of macOS I'd rather forget). I know what I'm doing.

BoredPositron 1y ago
It's performative to it's core. In the next release they will probably add a matrix screensaver, burning windows and hack a gibson in the release video.
- jasonvorhe 1y ago
  Nerds having fun playing around sounds really terrible. To the guillotine.
  - BoredPositron 1y ago
    You meant to write geeks? Nerds generally don't like their software packaged like fast food.
    - jasonvorhe 1y ago
      I must've forgot that nerds use only Linux from Scratch.
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      - bigyabai 1y ago
        Nerds use whatever distro they like, and then bend it to their will. Geeks are the type of people to install Omarchy or LARBS or disable their Mac's SIP for i3wm eye candy. The biggest change a geek makes to their system is changing the wallpaper to Tony Stark.
        jasonvorhe 1y ago
        So using a distribution, which bundles different components into a cohesive package is somehow different then an install script which bundles different components into another cohesive package? A distribution provides the base layer that you can customize to your liking. Omarchy is another base layer to customize to your liking. So using a distribution is for nerds but using something like Omarchy is for lower class geeks? What was the difference again? Can you elaborate on that? It feels like rage baiting but that wouldn't be constructive so I assume that you're acting in good faith and that you explain this line of thinking in more detail. So someone who uses someone's zsh config and adapts it to their liking is a geek as well because someone else (a nerd) did the heavy lifting already? Who even says that everyone installing Omarchy doesn't bend it to their will afterwards? Is everyone using the same tools and web apps as DHH? Then why should something like Omarchy even provide writable configs to customize it? I'm confused.
        BoredPositron 1y ago
        The main difference is that nerds don't have para social relationships with software or their creators.
        jasonvorhe 1y ago
        None of this is leading anywhere.
        BoredPositron 1y ago
        You started it with a dumb comment. I am just circle jerking.
- watty 1y ago
  you do realize it already comes with a matrix screensaver, right?
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keldaris 1y ago
Same here, I have multiple decades of experience running Linux on desktops and servers alike, and Omarchy just saves me time and manages to be productive and fun at the same time. Personally, I don't feel any moral obligation to investigate the personal views of people who write the software I use. Using software, especially free software, doesn't constitute an endorsement of the authors' views. Before this thread, I was blissfully unaware of this entire silly controversy, since Omarchy doesn't mention any politics anywhere as far as I can tell. If that ever changes, I'll delete it in a heartbeat (regardless of the kind of politics it happens to be), but so far the only people politicizing the issue seem to be its detractors.
- rufugee 1y ago
  The elapsed time from burning the ISO to productive development environment is impressive. Also, folks worry so much about customizing it, but you don't have to. And hyprland and Omarchy almost entire driven by text files, so Claude Code and its ilk are super effective at customizations.
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    I guess I should defend my point! I actually really like Hyprland (despite it's controversy) and really have no interest in re-hashing DHH's ragebait. My larger point is that we've seen this happen before, hundreds of times, and these distros always end up breaking and making people blame Linux instead of their maintainer. I don't think DHH is addressing this concern, and he's basically teeing-up a catastrophic system update with zero rollbacks by choosing Arch as the base systen. If you search the web for "Manjaro broken update" or "LARBS error" you're just flooded with myriad tech issues that don't exist on normal systems. It's a genuine handicap to rely on someone else's opinionated dotfiles when you don't understand why they made each decision. I think people using Omarchy long-term will end up fighting the distro more than they fight Linux.
    - rufugee 1y ago
      Omarchy uses limine plus snapper to give you (by default, but configurable) five system rollbacks. Each time an update happens, or a package is installed, a bootable btrfs snapshot is created. I've leveraged this myself to after an update caused an issue with nvidia drivers. I don't mean this to come across as snarky, but before you spread misinformation, you might want to inform yourself.

BoredPositron 1y ago

It's performative to it's core. In the next release they will probably add a matrix screensaver, burning windows and hack a gibson in the release video.

jasonvorhe 1y ago
Nerds having fun playing around sounds really terrible. To the guillotine.
- BoredPositron 1y ago
  You meant to write geeks? Nerds generally don't like their software packaged like fast food.
  - jasonvorhe 1y ago
    I must've forgot that nerds use only Linux from Scratch.
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    - bigyabai 1y ago
      Nerds use whatever distro they like, and then bend it to their will. Geeks are the type of people to install Omarchy or LARBS or disable their Mac's SIP for i3wm eye candy. The biggest change a geek makes to their system is changing the wallpaper to Tony Stark.
      - jasonvorhe 1y ago
        So using a distribution, which bundles different components into a cohesive package is somehow different then an install script which bundles different components into another cohesive package? A distribution provides the base layer that you can customize to your liking. Omarchy is another base layer to customize to your liking. So using a distribution is for nerds but using something like Omarchy is for lower class geeks? What was the difference again? Can you elaborate on that? It feels like rage baiting but that wouldn't be constructive so I assume that you're acting in good faith and that you explain this line of thinking in more detail. So someone who uses someone's zsh config and adapts it to their liking is a geek as well because someone else (a nerd) did the heavy lifting already? Who even says that everyone installing Omarchy doesn't bend it to their will afterwards? Is everyone using the same tools and web apps as DHH? Then why should something like Omarchy even provide writable configs to customize it? I'm confused.
        BoredPositron 1y ago
        The main difference is that nerds don't have para social relationships with software or their creators.
        jasonvorhe 1y ago
        None of this is leading anywhere.
        BoredPositron 1y ago
        You started it with a dumb comment. I am just circle jerking.
watty 1y ago
you do realize it already comes with a matrix screensaver, right?
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keldaris 1y ago

Same here, I have multiple decades of experience running Linux on desktops and servers alike, and Omarchy just saves me time and manages to be productive and fun at the same time. Personally, I don't feel any moral obligation to investigate the personal views of people who write the software I use. Using software, especially free software, doesn't constitute an endorsement of the authors' views. Before this thread, I was blissfully unaware of this entire silly controversy, since Omarchy doesn't mention any politics anywhere as far as I can tell. If that ever changes, I'll delete it in a heartbeat (regardless of the kind of politics it happens to be), but so far the only people politicizing the issue seem to be its detractors.

rufugee 1y ago
The elapsed time from burning the ISO to productive development environment is impressive. Also, folks worry so much about customizing it, but you don't have to. And hyprland and Omarchy almost entire driven by text files, so Claude Code and its ilk are super effective at customizations.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  I guess I should defend my point! I actually really like Hyprland (despite it's controversy) and really have no interest in re-hashing DHH's ragebait. My larger point is that we've seen this happen before, hundreds of times, and these distros always end up breaking and making people blame Linux instead of their maintainer. I don't think DHH is addressing this concern, and he's basically teeing-up a catastrophic system update with zero rollbacks by choosing Arch as the base systen. If you search the web for "Manjaro broken update" or "LARBS error" you're just flooded with myriad tech issues that don't exist on normal systems. It's a genuine handicap to rely on someone else's opinionated dotfiles when you don't understand why they made each decision. I think people using Omarchy long-term will end up fighting the distro more than they fight Linux.
  - rufugee 1y ago
    Omarchy uses limine plus snapper to give you (by default, but configurable) five system rollbacks. Each time an update happens, or a package is installed, a bootable btrfs snapshot is created. I've leveraged this myself to after an update caused an issue with nvidia drivers. I don't mean this to come across as snarky, but before you spread misinformation, you might want to inform yourself.