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It has been tried over the years. The question really is how much the employees understand and care about digital sovereignty. If they keep complaining because

by palata 1y ago

It has been tried over the years. The question really is how much the employees understand and care about digital sovereignty. If they keep complaining because they have to learn new tools, they will eventually go back to Microsoft...

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toomuchtodo 1y ago
The employees don't have to care, they will use whatever they're directed to use. It is whether the German government cares about digital sovereignty.
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dude250711 1y ago
I have read today that Linux users are like vegans of computing.
- misswaterfairy 1y ago
  Vegetarians for those who use a combination of open source and closed source code and applications
  - jraph 1y ago
    More like flexitarians maybe.
    - palata 1y ago
      Flexitarians just use whatever works, but they are aware that some of the stuff they use is not proprietary :-).
- estimator7292 1y ago
  Linux users in general are vegetarians. Arch users are the vegans of the Linux world. I use Arch, btw
  - jraph 1y ago
    > Arch users are the vegans of the Linux world. Why would Arch be in that position?
    - palata 1y ago
      I think the joke is about Arch users feeling the need to mention it ("I use Arch, btw"). Vegans have the same reputation, vegetarians don't.
      - jraph 1y ago
        Ah! Got it, thanks.
  - codingbot3000 1y ago
    Have you heard about the Arch Vegan already? The memes kind of write themselves...
shirro 1y ago
I doubt the employees will make a difference. It is likely more about the lobbying power of Microsoft and them finding a person at the right level who is receptive to their appeals and has the power to revert the policy. There are a lot of tech people who appreciate open source software and understand the benefits of digital sovereignty but its rare for them to have the final say in most orgs. Just about every org in my country uses Microsoft's email including universities, government, schools, businesses. I am sure it has some features that make it a good choice but its is unusual for any product to have practically 100% market share and no competition regardless of technical or usability advantages. Microsoft has huge resources and knows how to win customers.
codingbot3000 1y ago
You're quite right. The German city of Munich tried to switch their administration to Linux with their own LiMux Ubuntu flair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux). Unfortunately some of the (generally grumpy Bavarian) employees did not like it, and Microsoft's lobbying finally got the city council to dump it.

by palata 1y ago

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toomuchtodo 1y ago

The employees don't have to care, they will use whatever they're directed to use. It is whether the German government cares about digital sovereignty.

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dude250711 1y ago

I have read today that Linux users are like vegans of computing.

misswaterfairy 1y ago
Vegetarians for those who use a combination of open source and closed source code and applications
- jraph 1y ago
  More like flexitarians maybe.
  - palata 1y ago
    Flexitarians just use whatever works, but they are aware that some of the stuff they use is not proprietary :-).
estimator7292 1y ago
Linux users in general are vegetarians. Arch users are the vegans of the Linux world. I use Arch, btw
- jraph 1y ago
  > Arch users are the vegans of the Linux world. Why would Arch be in that position?
  - palata 1y ago
    I think the joke is about Arch users feeling the need to mention it ("I use Arch, btw"). Vegans have the same reputation, vegetarians don't.
    - jraph 1y ago
      Ah! Got it, thanks.
- codingbot3000 1y ago
  Have you heard about the Arch Vegan already? The memes kind of write themselves...

shirro 1y ago

I doubt the employees will make a difference. It is likely more about the lobbying power of Microsoft and them finding a person at the right level who is receptive to their appeals and has the power to revert the policy. There are a lot of tech people who appreciate open source software and understand the benefits of digital sovereignty but its rare for them to have the final say in most orgs. Just about every org in my country uses Microsoft's email including universities, government, schools, businesses. I am sure it has some features that make it a good choice but its is unusual for any product to have practically 100% market share and no competition regardless of technical or usability advantages. Microsoft has huge resources and knows how to win customers.

codingbot3000 1y ago

You're quite right. The German city of Munich tried to switch their administration to Linux with their own LiMux Ubuntu flair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux). Unfortunately some of the (generally grumpy Bavarian) employees did not like it, and Microsoft's lobbying finally got the city council to dump it.