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I understand that the author doesn’t want to get caught up in the details of any particular online drama, but without more concrete information (about either Bl

I understand that the author doesn’t want to get caught up in the details of any particular online drama, but without more concrete information (about either Bluesky or their own project), I find this too abstract to be insightful. YMMV, of course.

oddevan 1y ago
That's fair! I'd give more details about Smolblog <https://smolblog.com/ https://smolblog.com/> if the project was anywhere approaching "done".
- tptacek 1y ago
  But it's really not even clear in this post what you're reacting to. What's the pressure you're trying to address? What does it mean to be a "landlord" here? What are you doing instead?
jp57 1y ago
Agree. I have heard BlueSky described as a kind of self-made ghetto for the most terminally online, left-wing remnants of pre-Elon Twitter. If that's true then it suggests some shape to the distribution of possible dustups, but I spend no time there (or on X, or Mastodon) I don't really know for sure.
- dsr_ 1y ago
  That's... not how people familiar with BlueSky would describe it. I would say it's where the people who realized that Twitter wasn't going to recover fled in search of as similar an experience as possible, and mostly got it, right down to a centralized moderation system that is being co-opted to the operating company's desires.
  - PakG1 1y ago
    What you just said is completely compatible with what the parent comment said. I would say you're saying a 95% match to the parent while subtracting only the political undertones.
  - jp57 1y ago
    All you've done is take the description I provided and packed all the politics into the word "recover".
    - neutronicus 1y ago
      Hey, now - some of them got put into "fled" too
  - georgeburdell 1y ago
    Yes but the problem is that the people most strongly opposed to Elon left, while everyone else either embraced the change, or grumbled and carried on. I remember the opposite thing, politically, happening when Reddit clamped down on a number of rightwing -isms (and -philias) and then a site called Voat got created as the “free speech” alternative, except it only attracted the right wingers who saw the -isms as their core beliefs, and so the whole site was just that. Eventually Voat shut down, having failed to bring enough new to the table to attract regular, fairly politically indifferent folks

oddevan 1y ago

That's fair! I'd give more details about Smolblog <https://smolblog.com/ https://smolblog.com/> if the project was anywhere approaching "done".

tptacek 1y ago
But it's really not even clear in this post what you're reacting to. What's the pressure you're trying to address? What does it mean to be a "landlord" here? What are you doing instead?

jp57 1y ago

Agree. I have heard BlueSky described as a kind of self-made ghetto for the most terminally online, left-wing remnants of pre-Elon Twitter. If that's true then it suggests some shape to the distribution of possible dustups, but I spend no time there (or on X, or Mastodon) I don't really know for sure.

dsr_ 1y ago
That's... not how people familiar with BlueSky would describe it. I would say it's where the people who realized that Twitter wasn't going to recover fled in search of as similar an experience as possible, and mostly got it, right down to a centralized moderation system that is being co-opted to the operating company's desires.
- PakG1 1y ago
  What you just said is completely compatible with what the parent comment said. I would say you're saying a 95% match to the parent while subtracting only the political undertones.
- jp57 1y ago
  All you've done is take the description I provided and packed all the politics into the word "recover".
  - neutronicus 1y ago
    Hey, now - some of them got put into "fled" too
- georgeburdell 1y ago
  Yes but the problem is that the people most strongly opposed to Elon left, while everyone else either embraced the change, or grumbled and carried on. I remember the opposite thing, politically, happening when Reddit clamped down on a number of rightwing -isms (and -philias) and then a site called Voat got created as the “free speech” alternative, except it only attracted the right wingers who saw the -isms as their core beliefs, and so the whole site was just that. Eventually Voat shut down, having failed to bring enough new to the table to attract regular, fairly politically indifferent folks