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I never made that claim. All I said was that there have been protests at the ICE facility in Portland, that there has been violence, and there has been arrests

I never made that claim. All I said was that there have been protests at the ICE facility in Portland, that there has been violence, and there has been arrests. All of this is well documented by a lot a news outlets and not just from those that are considered right-leaning.

queenkjuul 1y ago
Then go back and read my original comment again lol. Protests are not war zones, nor are they "burning the city to the ground" nor are they even starting fires (and you did use the word fires). My point is that the administration is lying about what's happening in Portland, and you don't seem to care. The things you're describing are not the same things the administration is describing. And again, I don't know much about the protests in Portland, but Trump keeps saying the ones in Chicago are violent when they are not, so unless you can show me that Portland is different, it'll continue to assume you, like the president, are making things up
- kcplate 1y ago
  Did you also happen to notice the quotes around my use of that word? Apparently not. But now that I have pointed that out to you why do you suppose I did that? That was a sarcastic reference to the original claim. You also attribute to me an attitude that I did not express on here. My point all along was that the propaganda goes both ways. The government exaggerates their claims and the protesters try to minimize their violence and destructive impact. I stand by that, especially now that you have mischaracterized me several times over the course of this thread. You also describe the Chicago protests as non-violent (and you claim you know about those), but that is simply not true. Just yesterday the Broadview Illinois mayor Katrina Thompson decried the violence of the protesters in her city from Saturday night, So you are contributing to that other side of the propaganda coin by minimizing in the same way the government exaggerates. “There are too many protesters are raising their fists rather than their voices, creating chaos at the expense of the people who call Broadview home,” Thompson said in a statement. “Broadview residents lack the protestors’ privilege to return to calm, quiet neighborhoods for undisturbed rest.” https://news.wttw.com/2025/10/13/broadview-mayor-shrinks-designated-protest-area-outside-ice-facility https://news.wttw.com/2025/10/13/broadview-mayor-shrinks-des...
  - tptacek 1y ago
    No she didn't. I'm intimately familiar with the Broadview mayor situation since it's basically the biggest news in Oak Park politics. The protests, and, much more importantly, the response they're generating from DHS, are disruptive to the neighborhood. Violence from the protesters has nothing to do with it --- there is no violence from the protesters. The protesters are middle-aged professionals the western suburbs. The article says nothing different than that, either. Whether you meant to or not, you basically made up the notion that there was violence from the protesters, which is not OK. Please be more careful.
    - kcplate 1y ago
      You don’t need to chastise me. I quoted the Mayor who was quoted in a local PBS affiliate news report. If you have an issue with it’s accuracy, you should be reaching out to that affiliate and take issue with their reporting.
      - tptacek 1y ago
        I read the report, along with the mayor directly, whose every utterance shows up on our Facebook groups, and none of them say what you claim they say. Moreover, I don't have to axiomatically derive what's happening in Broadview: I live 5 minutes from there, and most of the protesters are from my own suburb.
        kcplate 1y ago
        Congrats. You are doing exactly what I said above. I provided a link to a news story from a local PBS affiliate, pulled a direct quote from that very story which it attributed to the mayor and you either didn’t read the source story I posted, or want to claim it is inaccurate because of some special proximity knowledge you have. So be it. However, since you want to call the source into question, here is the exact statement from the Broadview mayor on the Broadview government site. That is the full statement that the story quoted—The quote I posted that you claimed was never said because it was never mentioned in Facebook posts (Wow). The PBS affiliate story was accurate, the quote was accurate to the Mayor’s statement, and frankly, you were wrong. Perhaps you should “Please be more careful”, right? From the Broadview Statement: “There are too many protesters abusing their right to protest. Too many are raising their fists rather than their voices, creating chaos at the expense of the people who call Broadview home.” https://broadview-il.gov/reference/press-releases/press-release-broadview-shrinks-protest-safety-zones/ https://broadview-il.gov/reference/press-releases/press-rele... Feel free to dispute this all you want, feel free to diminish what it says, but know that you are doing exactly what I said…propagandizing from the other side of the coin.

queenkjuul 1y ago

Then go back and read my original comment again lol. Protests are not war zones, nor are they "burning the city to the ground" nor are they even starting fires (and you did use the word fires). My point is that the administration is lying about what's happening in Portland, and you don't seem to care. The things you're describing are not the same things the administration is describing. And again, I don't know much about the protests in Portland, but Trump keeps saying the ones in Chicago are violent when they are not, so unless you can show me that Portland is different, it'll continue to assume you, like the president, are making things up

kcplate 1y ago
Did you also happen to notice the quotes around my use of that word? Apparently not. But now that I have pointed that out to you why do you suppose I did that? That was a sarcastic reference to the original claim. You also attribute to me an attitude that I did not express on here. My point all along was that the propaganda goes both ways. The government exaggerates their claims and the protesters try to minimize their violence and destructive impact. I stand by that, especially now that you have mischaracterized me several times over the course of this thread. You also describe the Chicago protests as non-violent (and you claim you know about those), but that is simply not true. Just yesterday the Broadview Illinois mayor Katrina Thompson decried the violence of the protesters in her city from Saturday night, So you are contributing to that other side of the propaganda coin by minimizing in the same way the government exaggerates. “There are too many protesters are raising their fists rather than their voices, creating chaos at the expense of the people who call Broadview home,” Thompson said in a statement. “Broadview residents lack the protestors’ privilege to return to calm, quiet neighborhoods for undisturbed rest.” https://news.wttw.com/2025/10/13/broadview-mayor-shrinks-designated-protest-area-outside-ice-facility https://news.wttw.com/2025/10/13/broadview-mayor-shrinks-des...
- tptacek 1y ago
  No she didn't. I'm intimately familiar with the Broadview mayor situation since it's basically the biggest news in Oak Park politics. The protests, and, much more importantly, the response they're generating from DHS, are disruptive to the neighborhood. Violence from the protesters has nothing to do with it --- there is no violence from the protesters. The protesters are middle-aged professionals the western suburbs. The article says nothing different than that, either. Whether you meant to or not, you basically made up the notion that there was violence from the protesters, which is not OK. Please be more careful.
  - kcplate 1y ago
    You don’t need to chastise me. I quoted the Mayor who was quoted in a local PBS affiliate news report. If you have an issue with it’s accuracy, you should be reaching out to that affiliate and take issue with their reporting.
    - tptacek 1y ago
      I read the report, along with the mayor directly, whose every utterance shows up on our Facebook groups, and none of them say what you claim they say. Moreover, I don't have to axiomatically derive what's happening in Broadview: I live 5 minutes from there, and most of the protesters are from my own suburb.
      - kcplate 1y ago
        Congrats. You are doing exactly what I said above. I provided a link to a news story from a local PBS affiliate, pulled a direct quote from that very story which it attributed to the mayor and you either didn’t read the source story I posted, or want to claim it is inaccurate because of some special proximity knowledge you have. So be it. However, since you want to call the source into question, here is the exact statement from the Broadview mayor on the Broadview government site. That is the full statement that the story quoted—The quote I posted that you claimed was never said because it was never mentioned in Facebook posts (Wow). The PBS affiliate story was accurate, the quote was accurate to the Mayor’s statement, and frankly, you were wrong. Perhaps you should “Please be more careful”, right? From the Broadview Statement: “There are too many protesters abusing their right to protest. Too many are raising their fists rather than their voices, creating chaos at the expense of the people who call Broadview home.” https://broadview-il.gov/reference/press-releases/press-release-broadview-shrinks-protest-safety-zones/ https://broadview-il.gov/reference/press-releases/press-rele... Feel free to dispute this all you want, feel free to diminish what it says, but know that you are doing exactly what I said…propagandizing from the other side of the coin.