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who cares about a bubble? we are on the cusp of intelligent machines. The implications will last for hundreds of years, maybe impact the trajectory of humanity
by mikert89 1y ago
who cares about a bubble? we are on the cusp of intelligent machines. The implications will last for hundreds of years, maybe impact the trajectory of humanity
- mjr00 1y ago> we are on the cusp of intelligent machines. Nah, we aren't. There's a reason the output of generative AI is called slop.
- skywhopper 1y agoExcept we aren’t. They aren’t thinking, and they can’t actually make decisions. They generate language. That feels magical at first but in the end it’s not going to solve human problems.
- bigyabai 1y ago> we are on the cusp of intelligent machines. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. We have machines that talk, which is corollary to nothing.
- fruitworks 1y agoSometimes I wonder if reason is partially a product of manipulating language.
- card_zero 1y agoIt's nice that you say partially, that's bit different from every other HN comment that wondered this. Yeah, probably partially, as in, you have reason, you add in language, you get more reason.
- toss1 1y agoExplanation of reason and reasoning paths is a product of manipulating language. Most ideas, even in the reasoning fields, are generated in non-linguistic processes. Of course, some problems are solved by step-by-step linguistic (or math) A, then B, then C steps, etc., but even for those types of problems, when they get complex, the solution looks more like follow a bunch of paths to dead ends, think some more, go away, and then "Aha!" the idea of a solution pops into our head, then we back it up and make it explicit with the linguistic/logical 'chain of reasoning' to explain it to others. That solution did not come from manipulating language, but from some other cognitive processes we do not understand, but the explanation of it used language. LLMs aren't even close to that type of processing.
- dcminter 1y ago> we are on the cusp of intelligent machines That's an extremely speculative view that has been fashionable at several points in the last 50 years.
- Gattopardo 1y agoMy dude, it's literally just fancy autocomplete and isn't intelligent at all.
- rusk 1y agoClippy with a Bachelors in web search
- forgotusername6 1y agoWhat makes you so sure that you aren't just fancy autocomplete?
- alganet 1y agoI am sure that if I am a fancy auto-complete, I'm way fancier than LLMs. A whole different category of fancy way above their league. Not just me, but any living human is.
- abathologist 1y agoI am so sure because of the self-evidence of my experience, the results of 2 millennia of analysis into the nature of cognition and experience, and consideration of the material composition of our organism (we obviously have lots of critical analog components, which are not selecting tokens, but instead connecting with flows from other continua). Prediction is obviously involved in certain forms of cognition, but it obviously isn't all there is to the kinds of beings we are.
- daytonix 1y agobrother please
- lifestyleguru 1y agoMatrix is calling you on the rotary dial phone.
- stanac 1y agoIs that why we no longer have telephone boots? They want to prevent Neo from jumping in and out of Matrix?
- lifestyleguru 1y agoOh god, you know it.
- card_zero 1y agoTelephone ... boots? Napkin scribbles
- lifestyleguru 1y agoThese boots are make for phone calls
- maxglute 1y agoBubble burst means current technical AI approach economic deadend, if the most resourced tech companies in the world can't afford to maintain AI improvment then it's probably not going to happen because public likely isn't going to let state spend $$$$ in lieu of services on sovereign Ai projects that will make them unemployed.