I have dealt with lawyers plenty, and I choose them by reputation and referral, not credential. I neither know nor care where any of them went to law school.

I have dealt with lawyers plenty, and I choose them by reputation and referral, not credential. I neither know nor care where any of them went to law school. Lawyers used to train by apprentice rather than school and it would be just fine if they did today too. Same with doctors. They still do train by apprentice, it's just called "residency." And similar to lawyers, I neither know nor care where they went to med school. And although every doctor I have ever seen has the proper credentials, I have never seen a profession where incompetence abounds quite like the medical one. As for engineers, I am an uncredentialed engineer, so... And just like lawyers, I have hired plenty, and the best way to hire engineers is also by referral, not by credential.