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I recently was forced to get Windows 11 because my new build's motherboard only supported UEFI and there was some incompatibility with my 10 year old Windows 10

I recently was forced to get Windows 11 because my new build's motherboard only supported UEFI and there was some incompatibility with my 10 year old Windows 10 boot disk. Windows 11 is an abomination; I paid $200 for a Pro license and I still get ads. My kids will be learning computing on Linux.

vee-kay 1y ago
No ads still on Win10, thankfully. That Win11 is not an OS, it is an advertisement billboard.
- tavavex 1y ago
  Did you forget the dozen or so Start Menu ads for random garbageware they started bundling with Windows 10? They didn't shy away from it either, you got all of that even in the Pro SKU. Windows 10 isn't any less ad-ridden than 11. I remember it in all the OneDrive pushing, default browser resetting, lockscreen ad inserting 'glory'. Only after you manually stamped all of that out did it start being usable. But you can do that with 11 too. For now.
  - 0xfeba 1y ago
    I have Win 10 LTSC, and it came with none of that. But it is behind on feature updates.
bigyabai 1y ago
It's pretty horrible. When I use Windows, my foremost reaction is "how can they expect me to put up with this?" before walking away in disgust. I get offended, and I'm a sysadmin professionally. Then I remember, in a moment of Eldritch revelation, my mom daily-drives this OS. My siblings and cousins probably use it at work. Billions of people around the world chafe through these lockscreen ads, "live tile" updates, OneDrive nags, Windows + G Xbox Game Bar (whatever the fuck that is), Cortana... it's baffling. The same thing runs through my head looking at recent macOS screenshots. Are geriatrics really expected to put up with all this theatrical nonsense? Is this subscription service racket really more attractive than trying to compete as a normal desktop? Been using Linux for six years now. I cannot remember a single time I've truly missed Windows or macOS.
- jasonfarnon 1y ago
  "Are geriatrics really expected to put up with all this theatrical nonsense" reminds of circa 2000 watching all the new Internet users struggling with the multiple/cascade pop-ups on websites. That's what's so odious about the situation now: The OS bears the same relationship to the user as those spammy websites. speaking of "geriatrics" I wonder if the youth are actually responsible for a lot of this, unintentionally. this constant line between corporations and my device reminds me mainly of the smartphone experience. And, I'm told, modern videogames. Older folks like me tend to thnk of their desktop OS as inviolate--too many decades when a program phoning home on its own without my permission meant virus or other grave problem. Maybe people who grow up with smartphones don't have this boundary. Msft would know this.

vee-kay 1y ago

No ads still on Win10, thankfully. That Win11 is not an OS, it is an advertisement billboard.

tavavex 1y ago
Did you forget the dozen or so Start Menu ads for random garbageware they started bundling with Windows 10? They didn't shy away from it either, you got all of that even in the Pro SKU. Windows 10 isn't any less ad-ridden than 11. I remember it in all the OneDrive pushing, default browser resetting, lockscreen ad inserting 'glory'. Only after you manually stamped all of that out did it start being usable. But you can do that with 11 too. For now.
- 0xfeba 1y ago
  I have Win 10 LTSC, and it came with none of that. But it is behind on feature updates.

bigyabai 1y ago

It's pretty horrible. When I use Windows, my foremost reaction is "how can they expect me to put up with this?" before walking away in disgust. I get offended, and I'm a sysadmin professionally. Then I remember, in a moment of Eldritch revelation, my mom daily-drives this OS. My siblings and cousins probably use it at work. Billions of people around the world chafe through these lockscreen ads, "live tile" updates, OneDrive nags, Windows + G Xbox Game Bar (whatever the fuck that is), Cortana... it's baffling. The same thing runs through my head looking at recent macOS screenshots. Are geriatrics really expected to put up with all this theatrical nonsense? Is this subscription service racket really more attractive than trying to compete as a normal desktop? Been using Linux for six years now. I cannot remember a single time I've truly missed Windows or macOS.

jasonfarnon 1y ago
"Are geriatrics really expected to put up with all this theatrical nonsense" reminds of circa 2000 watching all the new Internet users struggling with the multiple/cascade pop-ups on websites. That's what's so odious about the situation now: The OS bears the same relationship to the user as those spammy websites. speaking of "geriatrics" I wonder if the youth are actually responsible for a lot of this, unintentionally. this constant line between corporations and my device reminds me mainly of the smartphone experience. And, I'm told, modern videogames. Older folks like me tend to thnk of their desktop OS as inviolate--too many decades when a program phoning home on its own without my permission meant virus or other grave problem. Maybe people who grow up with smartphones don't have this boundary. Msft would know this.