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I wouldn't recommend Mint. Better use something with recent KDE Plasma and recent kernel and Mesa for best Wayland experience. Especially speaking of playing g

by shmerl 1y ago

I wouldn't recommend Mint. Better use something with recent KDE Plasma and recent kernel and Mesa for best Wayland experience. Especially speaking of playing games, I periodically see newcomer Linux gamers hitting problems due to Mint being outdated and not having good Wayland support. Especially for any kind of recent hardware.

nokeya 1y ago
Any examples of “something with recent kde”? I have Ubuntu currently, wanted to switch to the Mint, now want to hear more opinions
- shmerl 1y ago
  I'd say any rolling distro. Try Debian testing or unstable if you prefer Debian distros family (choose KDE during installation). Or try Arch. KDE also started making its own Arch based distro now: https://kde.org/linux/ https://kde.org/linux/ But it's one of those immutable flavors. I prefer something more flexible.
- Alupis 1y ago
  Fedora
  - jpmattia 1y ago
    How do you deal with the short lifespan until EOL? I've been using Rocky (and CentOS before that) simply to avoid dealing with EOL so often.
    - Alupis 1y ago
      Fedora makes major upgrades pretty easy - you can even do it via the GUI Software Center, then reboot. Personally I'm using Kinoite[1], an "immutable" version of Fedora that has an immutable base image, which makes it nearly impossible to break things during updates (even major upgrades). [1] - https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/ https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/
- queenkjuul 1y ago
  I use mint's cinnamon UI on Ubuntu. It's by far my favorite desktop, but yeah Mint's main packages are too far out of date usually.
sebtron 1y ago
For me it's the exact opposite, I had problems with Steam games on Wayland and I switched back to X11.
- shmerl 1y ago
  You probably used Nvidia and some outdated distro with a bad DE on top. Not something you should be using. Using X11 is DOA anyway, so you can figure out what was wrong in your case and use better options.
  - sebtron 1y ago
    No, AMD. I had issues on the latest Debian, released this summer, with KDE. X11 works perfectly fine. I would be happy with wayland too, if it worked. And in fact I use it on my other device.
    - shmerl 1y ago
      What kind of issues though with what GPU? I'm using Debian testing, it all works fine with AMD and KDE Plasma Wayland session. With AMD, always make sure to use latest kernel, Mesa and amdgpu firmware.
      - sebtron 1y ago
        The Steam main window did not open, although Steam itself did load in the background. I could work around this by disabling smooth scrolling on web view and some other GPU-related option (I forgot exactly). But then there was a strange glitch on every single game (both native and Proton-based). Periodically (e.g. every ~10 seconds on some 3D games, on every screen reload on some other) the screen turned black for about 2 seconds. Then I remembered that I had some issue when I first installed Debian 12 two years, though I forgot which issues exactly, and that I solved them by switching from Wayland to X11.
        shmerl 1y ago

by shmerl 1y ago

nokeya 1y ago

Any examples of “something with recent kde”? I have Ubuntu currently, wanted to switch to the Mint, now want to hear more opinions

shmerl 1y ago
I'd say any rolling distro. Try Debian testing or unstable if you prefer Debian distros family (choose KDE during installation). Or try Arch. KDE also started making its own Arch based distro now: https://kde.org/linux/ https://kde.org/linux/ But it's one of those immutable flavors. I prefer something more flexible.
Alupis 1y ago
Fedora
- jpmattia 1y ago
  How do you deal with the short lifespan until EOL? I've been using Rocky (and CentOS before that) simply to avoid dealing with EOL so often.
  - Alupis 1y ago
    Fedora makes major upgrades pretty easy - you can even do it via the GUI Software Center, then reboot. Personally I'm using Kinoite[1], an "immutable" version of Fedora that has an immutable base image, which makes it nearly impossible to break things during updates (even major upgrades). [1] - https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/ https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/kinoite/
queenkjuul 1y ago
I use mint's cinnamon UI on Ubuntu. It's by far my favorite desktop, but yeah Mint's main packages are too far out of date usually.

sebtron 1y ago

For me it's the exact opposite, I had problems with Steam games on Wayland and I switched back to X11.

shmerl 1y ago
You probably used Nvidia and some outdated distro with a bad DE on top. Not something you should be using. Using X11 is DOA anyway, so you can figure out what was wrong in your case and use better options.
- sebtron 1y ago
  No, AMD. I had issues on the latest Debian, released this summer, with KDE. X11 works perfectly fine. I would be happy with wayland too, if it worked. And in fact I use it on my other device.
  - shmerl 1y ago
    What kind of issues though with what GPU? I'm using Debian testing, it all works fine with AMD and KDE Plasma Wayland session. With AMD, always make sure to use latest kernel, Mesa and amdgpu firmware.
    - sebtron 1y ago
      The Steam main window did not open, although Steam itself did load in the background. I could work around this by disabling smooth scrolling on web view and some other GPU-related option (I forgot exactly). But then there was a strange glitch on every single game (both native and Proton-based). Periodically (e.g. every ~10 seconds on some 3D games, on every screen reload on some other) the screen turned black for about 2 seconds. Then I remembered that I had some issue when I first installed Debian 12 two years, though I forgot which issues exactly, and that I solved them by switching from Wayland to X11.
      - shmerl 1y ago