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comming back to comment again and I'd have to say that I think instructing someone completely new to linux to use a more "stable" linux like CentOS or Debian ca

by lstrope 14y ago

comming back to comment again and I'd have to say that I think instructing someone completely new to linux to use a more "stable" linux like CentOS or Debian can be just as damanging when they cannot figure out how to get java installed correctly or they need to connect a printer. I think the gnome shell is responsible for those things, however those things work less in CentOS and Debian than they do at distro's aimed at the desktop. You are recommending stable server distro's for desktop deployment... there is no crime there but I do question your logic (because I'm curious) about how CentOS would be better than Ubuntu for your typical desktop user. I should note that I use Ubuntu 12.04 w/ Unity as my developer workstation at work but I use Arch linux on my home machines. Would I ever recommend Arch over Ubuntu? Only if you are a developer. And only maybe then. I think Ubuntu is far from perfect, but it is rock solid stable by end users definitions.

gits1225 14y ago
The reason I suggest CentOS (or Debian) is because it met the needs of a large majority of people I dealt with. Also remember that a lot of these people work in offices and having printers (or java) set-up correctly is integral to their work, which I haven't had any problems setting up thus far (or directing people "How to" on the phone) in CentOS. Every single one of 'em has then installed the same distribution they use at work at home as well. One of the reasons why this all works really well is that, these distributions are installed on hardware which is relatively old (2-3 years), which is the case for the majority. Distributions need to realise that when an operating system is installed, it is supposed to run without issues for a very very long time. P.S: I did test openSUSE (12.1), but, it had its own share of issues that I don't recommend it to newbies.
- lstrope 14y ago
  In the end which font(s) have you found that render well or that you recommend? Any monospace in particular? Edit: P.S. I feel that I was too harsh in discounting CentOS as a "difficult" server distro. It is, for the reasons in your reply, probably one of the better choices. I can't knock that and it is a good enterprise recommendation - for older hardware in particular.
  - gits1225 14y ago
    Any font that doesn't ship with the default install needs some amount of tweaking to "get right". That said, like mentioned before, fonts in the Ubuntu family works well in all areas. Personally, I have been alternating between Ubuntu mono (bold) and terminus for a while now on the terminal and Ubuntu Regular as the system font.

by lstrope 14y ago

gits1225 14y ago

The reason I suggest CentOS (or Debian) is because it met the needs of a large majority of people I dealt with. Also remember that a lot of these people work in offices and having printers (or java) set-up correctly is integral to their work, which I haven't had any problems setting up thus far (or directing people "How to" on the phone) in CentOS. Every single one of 'em has then installed the same distribution they use at work at home as well. One of the reasons why this all works really well is that, these distributions are installed on hardware which is relatively old (2-3 years), which is the case for the majority. Distributions need to realise that when an operating system is installed, it is supposed to run without issues for a very very long time. P.S: I did test openSUSE (12.1), but, it had its own share of issues that I don't recommend it to newbies.

lstrope 14y ago
In the end which font(s) have you found that render well or that you recommend? Any monospace in particular? Edit: P.S. I feel that I was too harsh in discounting CentOS as a "difficult" server distro. It is, for the reasons in your reply, probably one of the better choices. I can't knock that and it is a good enterprise recommendation - for older hardware in particular.
- gits1225 14y ago
  Any font that doesn't ship with the default install needs some amount of tweaking to "get right". That said, like mentioned before, fonts in the Ubuntu family works well in all areas. Personally, I have been alternating between Ubuntu mono (bold) and terminus for a while now on the terminal and Ubuntu Regular as the system font.