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I'm not sure I would necessarily draw that conclusion. If the author intentionally deactivated their Bluesky account, does the fact that he can successfully do

by cowpig 1y ago

I'm not sure I would necessarily draw that conclusion. If the author intentionally deactivated their Bluesky account, does the fact that he can successfully do that on Bluesky lead to the conclusion that it's less resilient?

gdulli 1y ago
The comment makes so little sense that it could only be intended as a dumb gotcha from someone who thinks they're fighting in some sort of culture war about the Twitter succession. Ignoring is better than encouraging.
- nunobrito 1y ago
  Welcome to decentralization. That really means that once you publish something, the internet won't forget it. It is OK if you prefer walled gardens, other people prefer the outdoors.
jrm4 1y ago
I think you've nailed a problem with all of these, they would make "deleting your stuff" HARDER. What's stopping the rogue node from saving all your stuff forever? I think "trying to make a thing that can work through rogue or stupid nodes" is just prohibitively harder than "work on making nodes more reliable" (which I absolutely grant is extremely hard.)
- plq 1y ago
  > What's stopping the rogue node from saving all your stuff forever? Nothing. You must always have this in mind when posting online: It's impossible to ensure that data is deleted and gone forever.
  - jrm4 1y ago
    Right, I mean, I was asking rhetorically. Taking this idea further -- this is the sort of thing that really makes me consider whether or not ATProto might be literally the worst idea in all of social media. Which is to say "can track you just as intrusively as any private service, but now your history is cryptographically signable and even EASIER to share and move everywhere"
- nunobrito 1y ago
  The difference is a single point of failure (centralization) vs multiple copies of the same posts all over the internet (decentralization). Didn't even took a year to see where the texts are still readable today.

by cowpig 1y ago

gdulli 1y ago

The comment makes so little sense that it could only be intended as a dumb gotcha from someone who thinks they're fighting in some sort of culture war about the Twitter succession. Ignoring is better than encouraging.

nunobrito 1y ago
Welcome to decentralization. That really means that once you publish something, the internet won't forget it. It is OK if you prefer walled gardens, other people prefer the outdoors.

jrm4 1y ago

I think you've nailed a problem with all of these, they would make "deleting your stuff" HARDER. What's stopping the rogue node from saving all your stuff forever? I think "trying to make a thing that can work through rogue or stupid nodes" is just prohibitively harder than "work on making nodes more reliable" (which I absolutely grant is extremely hard.)

plq 1y ago
> What's stopping the rogue node from saving all your stuff forever? Nothing. You must always have this in mind when posting online: It's impossible to ensure that data is deleted and gone forever.
- jrm4 1y ago
  Right, I mean, I was asking rhetorically. Taking this idea further -- this is the sort of thing that really makes me consider whether or not ATProto might be literally the worst idea in all of social media. Which is to say "can track you just as intrusively as any private service, but now your history is cryptographically signable and even EASIER to share and move everywhere"
nunobrito 1y ago
The difference is a single point of failure (centralization) vs multiple copies of the same posts all over the internet (decentralization). Didn't even took a year to see where the texts are still readable today.