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What you said here is essentially "Because it is illegal and they knowingly broke the law we should ostracize these people from society" without ever broaching
by AngryData 1y ago
What you said here is essentially "Because it is illegal and they knowingly broke the law we should ostracize these people from society" without ever broaching whether it should be illegal or not to start with or if drug use by itself deserves being ostracized.
- charcircuit 1y agoYes, that is what I did.
- anal_reactor 1y agoDaily reminder that Boston Tea Party was illegal. If those people were properly punished then US wouldn't have got independence, and the world would've been a much better place.
- halfmatthalfcat 1y agoIndependence was happening no matter what.
- charcircuit 1y agoBritain losing America as a colony was a major fail. If they had properly dealt with those people who had participated it would have slowed down the movement of American gaining its independence. It serves as a warning not to let small crime fester as those people can cause larger problems through network effects.
- hitarpetar 1y agonot only tough on crime but a committed imperialist. nice.
- 1718627440 1y agoI don't think the United States had a much different policy towards the original inhabitants than the colonial government of Britain. Slavery became illegal in european colonizer countries earlier than in the United States. (Some argue it still isn't.) It's not the colonized people that gained freedom, it's the colonizers who were freed from taxes so they could exploit more unregulated. In this case it is between one imperialist country vs. another, so wouldn't label that position imperialistic necessarily.
- hitarpetar 1y agothank you for the history lesson. my conclusion is that both empires were/are bad, not that we need to be tough on crime like the person i was replying to said
- 1718627440 1y agoI think what charcircuit meant was that the independence of the United States was an internal struggle of the british upper class and viewed through the lens of them was bad and could have been avoided by another policy.
- hitarpetar 1y agoin conclusion, we should criminalize drugs because the crown should have wielded its legal power better to prevent the American revolution. you know what I would watch that ted talk actually
- 1718627440 1y agoIn conclusion, you need to enforce laws, otherwise it becomes normalized to not follow them and the only peaceful option is to revoke the law.
- hitarpetar 1y agoit's certainly a framing on the American revolution I haven't heard before
- projectazorian 1y agoI tend to agree, but worth considering that Britain would probably not have banned slavery when it did if it still controlled the southern US.