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I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate pa
by laktak 1y ago
I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate partition/hw/vm.
Like "gluing" two phones together - just better ;)
It would be great to run an open OS but having to carry a separate phone for banking/paying is not really a viable option.
- madduci 1y agoI would be happy if any of the big phone makers will starting adopting LineageOS or GrapheneOS as the main operating system for some of their models. Or just leave the possibility of easy unlock the phone and publish sources.
- edent 1y agoBQ tried that with Cyanogen (the precursor to Lineage) https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/bq-aquaris-x5 https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/bq-aquaris-x5 As did WileyFox - https://www.xda-developers.com/wileyfox-to-issue-update-to-migrate-away-from-cyanogenos/ https://www.xda-developers.com/wileyfox-to-issue-update-to-m... They were both budget brands with niche offerings. For most people, the source of the OS is immaterial. There's very little competitive advantage to selling a forked OS, and a rather large downside in terms of support costs. I'm mostly happy with my GrapheneOS device - but it is absolutely not suitable for mass market.
- jsheard 1y agoOnePlus also shipped Cyanogen in their early days. They're still around, but they've long since pivoted to their own proprietary Android distro.
- thaumasiotes 1y agoGiven that Cyanogenmod was discontinued shortly after the OnePlus One released, it's hard to blame them.
- drnick1 1y ago> I'm mostly happy with my GrapheneOS device - but it is absolutely not suitable for mass market. What makes you say that? I run GrapheneOS on a Pixel and had to go through the relative simple flashing process, but if GOS came preinstalled on a device anybody familiar with Android (or even iOS) would be able to use it. Compatibility with Android apps is great too.
- edent 1y agoOff the top of my head: Lots of banking apps don't work. RCS has only just started working. No "Find My Device" support. Permissions model is difficult to understand - even I struggle with it. Standard launcher has tiny icons which can't be adjusted. Pop on to https://discuss.grapheneos.org/ https://discuss.grapheneos.org/ and see the struggles which users have.
- shim__ 1y ago> No "Find My Device" support. I don't have any issues with it
- mbananasynergy 1y agoWhat is the issue with the permission model. It's basically the AOSP permission model. The changes made by GrapheneOS is the user-facing toggle for the INTERNET permission, and the sensors permission. If people do not want to interface with those features, they can simply skip them, and the permission model will be the exact same as it is on Android.
- drnick1 1y ago> No "Find My Device" support. "Find My Device" means the location of your device is constantly sent to and stored on someone else's computer (the "cloud"), and it is something that shouldn't exist unless that someone else's computer happens to be yours.
- izacus 1y agoYou ordering the rest of the world which features should exist isn't how anything works.
- anthk 1y agoI had that phone, too bad it died.
- strcat 1y agoGrapheneOS is partnered with a major Android OEM and working towards some of their future devices meeting our requirements and providing official GrapheneOS support. It won't be the main operating system, but it will be an officially supported option. Their current devices don't meet our requirements, but they're working towards meeting those for future devices.
- kuon 1y agoAll my banking apps works fine under lineage. The only app that does not work is McDonald. I have not investigated very far, maybe it is possible to make it work.
- qingcharles 1y agoFor the love of God, why does McD's of all people require device attestation? I assume it's some downline package they are including?
- Denatonium 1y agoThe only app I use that actually cares is Craigslist of all things. The app doesn't do anything that the mobile website doesn't.
- butz 1y agoBanking, pay and government apps should be a website and work on any device with a web browser.
- andrewflnr 1y agoLots of them are, in fact. It's not that hard, maybe even easier. What's wrong with the rest of them that require a phone?
- ramon156 1y agoNFC pay in browser? Does that exist?
- qingcharles 1y agoI don't believe it does, but it should.
- andrewflnr 1y agoOk, less so NFC, but my bank and all the governments I have to deal with have reasonably functional websites. It's clearly possible.
- okanat 1y agoWhere are you from? I live in Germany. I use ING and DKB as my banks. Both of the banks require a Play Integrity-checked app as their default 2FA.In the past I used Sparkasse and Commerzbank. They too required a PI-approved app. As an alternative you can order a code generator but for DKB that requires a paid debit-card. ING disables the phone app if you use a code generator. You cannot have multiple 2FA.
- andrewflnr 1y agoUS, Virginia. Funny, I tend to assume Europe has this stuff better figured out.
- exabrial 1y agoThere's 0 reason why bank/pay/gov apps can't be ran on a regular OS. The goal is to force users into the Google world at the excuse of "security"
- baranul 1y agoThis is on point and it's sickening what Google is allowed to get away with. Even with the recent crackdowns on Google by various governments, they are steadily locking down Android, so even if you paid for your phone, whatever apps that you want to put on it will need their seal of approval. The excuse of "security" or "it's for the children" is complete BS, because it's about "them" having unwanted and total control.