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I see, I believe you. You pay for it. And it's closed source, small company, with code that has access to everything you browse and injects JS code into the pag

by hu3 1y ago

I see, I believe you. You pay for it. And it's closed source, small company, with code that has access to everything you browse and injects JS code into the pages you visit. And people defend this? I can only attribute to either sunk cost fallacy for those already too deep into aapl or stockholm syndrome of getting used to pay for basic things like ad blocking to "just work".

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
Actually you are wrong again. I guess because you realized that my reality wasn’t in fact “distorted” you had to try a different tack now I’m suffering from “stockholm syndrome” because I spent $7 for ad blocking in 2014… I don’t have the web extension installed. With Apple’s content blocker framework, the app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block, and Safari blocks them. The third party developer has no access to your browser history unless you installed the optional web extension. The content blocking framework was introduced over a decade ago. Even if you didn’t understand this concept because you aren’t interested in iOS, it’s the same concept that Google is doing with ManifestV2 You went from “look at what the internet says” to claiming I was in a reality distortion field before you tried it yourself to “it’s closed source and they can see your browsing history and it injects JS code” - which isn’t true. To “oh gawd” you (now) have to pay $40 one time fee and it’s yours forever. I paid $6 for the “legacy” version 11 years ago and have used it since. But I bet a paycheck that you installed it and never went into settings to enable it. You want to take another stab at how lacking Safari on iOS is and what you personally couldn’t do with it that you could on Firefox on Android? I posted screenshots where you are wrong.
- hu3 1y ago
  > The app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block. Hahaha. Nice try. Blocking URLs was never enough because websites just proxy them from their base DNS these days and the list of URLs is limited. Doesn't take much thinking to arrive to that conclusion. That's the whole reason the internet is bitching about manifest v3 (not v2 as you said). I guess the free version has a smaller list, that's why I see ads in that website. And it breaks often too, as expected: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_adblock_pro_for_blocking_ads_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_ad... Just because you have a legacy version doesn't change anything. Still pay to fix. And a bad fix at it.
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    So again you deflect instead admitting you were wrong (again). I give you the same challenge. With just content blocking, show me a site that 1Blocker doesn’t block ads for. Or the even easier challenge tell me functionality that you have that can’t be duplicated on iOS. Since you don’t want to do that, find a citation where 1blocker doesn’t block ads for a specific site and I will try it myself and post screenshots like I did before. You brought up a concern about privacy, the content browsing framework protects your privacy. You completely moved the goal post, now you’re saying that I had to pay $15 11 years ago. Oh and the link you posted had this comment. > In my experience 1Blocker is stable, fast, blocks all advertisings and makes my Youtube experience in Safari more fun because there is no advertisings in YouTube. There is a community here talking about r/1Blocker for any kind of question.
    - hu3 1y ago
      meh. it's subpar
      - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        Still waiting for you to tell me what you can’t do? You went from: 1. Web blockers aren’t available for iOS (which they have been since 2014) 2. They aren’t as good because iOS doesn’t support web extensions (which they have since 2021) 3. Look at this website thst shows ads (then I posted screenshots showing 1Blocker working) 4. A closed source extension can inject JavaScript and has security problems (Thsrs not how ad blockers on iOS have worked since 2014) 5. But you have to pay for it! (I paid $7 back in 2014 and even now you pay $35 for a lifetime subscription. 6. Static list of content blockers aren’t good enough! Okay show me what they don’t do by themselves. But either way see #2. 7. So now show me what I’m missing (crickets…)
        hu3 1y ago
        I mean I didn't read but the first experiment I did wit 1Blocker showed ads. That's all I need to know. I'm fine with the industry strongest adblocking tool. And it's open source to boot. I'd never trust a mere closed source list of URLs. Imagine using this all day with websites changing URLs and this "smol" company having to keep up with it.

by hu3 1y ago

raw_anon_1111 1y ago

Actually you are wrong again. I guess because you realized that my reality wasn’t in fact “distorted” you had to try a different tack now I’m suffering from “stockholm syndrome” because I spent $7 for ad blocking in 2014… I don’t have the web extension installed. With Apple’s content blocker framework, the app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block, and Safari blocks them. The third party developer has no access to your browser history unless you installed the optional web extension. The content blocking framework was introduced over a decade ago. Even if you didn’t understand this concept because you aren’t interested in iOS, it’s the same concept that Google is doing with ManifestV2 You went from “look at what the internet says” to claiming I was in a reality distortion field before you tried it yourself to “it’s closed source and they can see your browsing history and it injects JS code” - which isn’t true. To “oh gawd” you (now) have to pay $40 one time fee and it’s yours forever. I paid $6 for the “legacy” version 11 years ago and have used it since. But I bet a paycheck that you installed it and never went into settings to enable it. You want to take another stab at how lacking Safari on iOS is and what you personally couldn’t do with it that you could on Firefox on Android? I posted screenshots where you are wrong.

hu3 1y ago
> The app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block. Hahaha. Nice try. Blocking URLs was never enough because websites just proxy them from their base DNS these days and the list of URLs is limited. Doesn't take much thinking to arrive to that conclusion. That's the whole reason the internet is bitching about manifest v3 (not v2 as you said). I guess the free version has a smaller list, that's why I see ads in that website. And it breaks often too, as expected: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_adblock_pro_for_blocking_ads_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_ad... Just because you have a legacy version doesn't change anything. Still pay to fix. And a bad fix at it.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  So again you deflect instead admitting you were wrong (again). I give you the same challenge. With just content blocking, show me a site that 1Blocker doesn’t block ads for. Or the even easier challenge tell me functionality that you have that can’t be duplicated on iOS. Since you don’t want to do that, find a citation where 1blocker doesn’t block ads for a specific site and I will try it myself and post screenshots like I did before. You brought up a concern about privacy, the content browsing framework protects your privacy. You completely moved the goal post, now you’re saying that I had to pay $15 11 years ago. Oh and the link you posted had this comment. > In my experience 1Blocker is stable, fast, blocks all advertisings and makes my Youtube experience in Safari more fun because there is no advertisings in YouTube. There is a community here talking about r/1Blocker for any kind of question.
  - hu3 1y ago
    meh. it's subpar
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      Still waiting for you to tell me what you can’t do? You went from: 1. Web blockers aren’t available for iOS (which they have been since 2014) 2. They aren’t as good because iOS doesn’t support web extensions (which they have since 2021) 3. Look at this website thst shows ads (then I posted screenshots showing 1Blocker working) 4. A closed source extension can inject JavaScript and has security problems (Thsrs not how ad blockers on iOS have worked since 2014) 5. But you have to pay for it! (I paid $7 back in 2014 and even now you pay $35 for a lifetime subscription. 6. Static list of content blockers aren’t good enough! Okay show me what they don’t do by themselves. But either way see #2. 7. So now show me what I’m missing (crickets…)
      - hu3 1y ago
        I mean I didn't read but the first experiment I did wit 1Blocker showed ads. That's all I need to know. I'm fine with the industry strongest adblocking tool. And it's open source to boot. I'd never trust a mere closed source list of URLs. Imagine using this all day with websites changing URLs and this "smol" company having to keep up with it.