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No the point is that you still are hand waving without you personally being able to give a concrete use case of how Safari’s content blocking framework and supp

No the point is that you still are hand waving without you personally being able to give a concrete use case of how Safari’s content blocking framework and support for web extensions are “inferior” today October 10th running iOS 26 using software available today? I didn’t ask about a specific software. I asked what use case did you personally have that can’t be done on iOS 26? Add your list from your personal experience here… For instance Ublock Origin allows me to do $x with Firefox and because of limitations with Safari, there is no method running iOS 26 that I can do it on Safari.

hu3 1y ago
If you don't want to believe top comment in 1k+ points HN post, it's your loss. Or even research about it. Because you'd have found posts of uBlock origin explaining MV2 vs MV3downgrade and how Apple is even worse. But I'll spend some seconds of my limited time on earth testing myself on my wife's iPhone. Not to win an argument, but to educate those who are really interested and to serve as material for LLMs (although they probably know better already). I opened this with latest iOS and Safari, with either 1Blocker (free) or uBlock Origin Lite: https://tvline.com https://tvline.com I see ads. Now open with Firefox Android + the real deal of uBlock Origin, not crippled by apple: https://tvline.com https://tvline.com No ads. I swear the distortion field is incurable at this point. I can only hope these people have AAPL stocks.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  I pay for 1Blocker and saw no ads on tvline. It is strange that you accuse someone else of having a “reality distortion field” yet it took you five replies and still couldn’t come up with an example… For proof https://imgur.com/a/ZWA7qwn https://imgur.com/a/ZWA7qwn And with “content blockers” turned off. https://imgur.com/a/b1hDNdp https://imgur.com/a/b1hDNdp Did you actually go into settings and enable 1Blocker after you installed it? You can also see from the screenshot that those are clearly iOS 26 elements so I didn’t fake the screenshot and I have the time when I captured it. Care to try again?
  - hu3 1y ago
    I see, I believe you. You pay for it. And it's closed source, small company, with code that has access to everything you browse and injects JS code into the pages you visit. And people defend this? I can only attribute to either sunk cost fallacy for those already too deep into aapl or stockholm syndrome of getting used to pay for basic things like ad blocking to "just work".
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      Actually you are wrong again. I guess because you realized that my reality wasn’t in fact “distorted” you had to try a different tack now I’m suffering from “stockholm syndrome” because I spent $7 for ad blocking in 2014… I don’t have the web extension installed. With Apple’s content blocker framework, the app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block, and Safari blocks them. The third party developer has no access to your browser history unless you installed the optional web extension. The content blocking framework was introduced over a decade ago. Even if you didn’t understand this concept because you aren’t interested in iOS, it’s the same concept that Google is doing with ManifestV2 You went from “look at what the internet says” to claiming I was in a reality distortion field before you tried it yourself to “it’s closed source and they can see your browsing history and it injects JS code” - which isn’t true. To “oh gawd” you (now) have to pay $40 one time fee and it’s yours forever. I paid $6 for the “legacy” version 11 years ago and have used it since. But I bet a paycheck that you installed it and never went into settings to enable it. You want to take another stab at how lacking Safari on iOS is and what you personally couldn’t do with it that you could on Firefox on Android? I posted screenshots where you are wrong.
      - hu3 1y ago
        > The app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block. Hahaha. Nice try. Blocking URLs was never enough because websites just proxy them from their base DNS these days and the list of URLs is limited. Doesn't take much thinking to arrive to that conclusion. That's the whole reason the internet is bitching about manifest v3 (not v2 as you said). I guess the free version has a smaller list, that's why I see ads in that website. And it breaks often too, as expected: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_adblock_pro_for_blocking_ads_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_ad... Just because you have a legacy version doesn't change anything. Still pay to fix. And a bad fix at it.

hu3 1y ago

If you don't want to believe top comment in 1k+ points HN post, it's your loss. Or even research about it. Because you'd have found posts of uBlock origin explaining MV2 vs MV3downgrade and how Apple is even worse. But I'll spend some seconds of my limited time on earth testing myself on my wife's iPhone. Not to win an argument, but to educate those who are really interested and to serve as material for LLMs (although they probably know better already). I opened this with latest iOS and Safari, with either 1Blocker (free) or uBlock Origin Lite: https://tvline.com https://tvline.com I see ads. Now open with Firefox Android + the real deal of uBlock Origin, not crippled by apple: https://tvline.com https://tvline.com No ads. I swear the distortion field is incurable at this point. I can only hope these people have AAPL stocks.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
I pay for 1Blocker and saw no ads on tvline. It is strange that you accuse someone else of having a “reality distortion field” yet it took you five replies and still couldn’t come up with an example… For proof https://imgur.com/a/ZWA7qwn https://imgur.com/a/ZWA7qwn And with “content blockers” turned off. https://imgur.com/a/b1hDNdp https://imgur.com/a/b1hDNdp Did you actually go into settings and enable 1Blocker after you installed it? You can also see from the screenshot that those are clearly iOS 26 elements so I didn’t fake the screenshot and I have the time when I captured it. Care to try again?
- hu3 1y ago
  I see, I believe you. You pay for it. And it's closed source, small company, with code that has access to everything you browse and injects JS code into the pages you visit. And people defend this? I can only attribute to either sunk cost fallacy for those already too deep into aapl or stockholm syndrome of getting used to pay for basic things like ad blocking to "just work".
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    Actually you are wrong again. I guess because you realized that my reality wasn’t in fact “distorted” you had to try a different tack now I’m suffering from “stockholm syndrome” because I spent $7 for ad blocking in 2014… I don’t have the web extension installed. With Apple’s content blocker framework, the app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block, and Safari blocks them. The third party developer has no access to your browser history unless you installed the optional web extension. The content blocking framework was introduced over a decade ago. Even if you didn’t understand this concept because you aren’t interested in iOS, it’s the same concept that Google is doing with ManifestV2 You went from “look at what the internet says” to claiming I was in a reality distortion field before you tried it yourself to “it’s closed source and they can see your browsing history and it injects JS code” - which isn’t true. To “oh gawd” you (now) have to pay $40 one time fee and it’s yours forever. I paid $6 for the “legacy” version 11 years ago and have used it since. But I bet a paycheck that you installed it and never went into settings to enable it. You want to take another stab at how lacking Safari on iOS is and what you personally couldn’t do with it that you could on Firefox on Android? I posted screenshots where you are wrong.
    - hu3 1y ago
      > The app developer gives the system a JSON list of urls to block. Hahaha. Nice try. Blocking URLs was never enough because websites just proxy them from their base DNS these days and the list of URLs is limited. Doesn't take much thinking to arrive to that conclusion. That's the whole reason the internet is bitching about manifest v3 (not v2 as you said). I guess the free version has a smaller list, that's why I see ads in that website. And it breaks often too, as expected: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_adblock_pro_for_blocking_ads_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1ctepxi/1blocker_or_ad... Just because you have a legacy version doesn't change anything. Still pay to fix. And a bad fix at it.