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Create your own local Dropbox with AeroFS

66 points by vectorbunny 14y ago

minm 14y ago
Tonido Sync (http://www.tonido.com/app_sync_home.html http://www.tonido.com/app_sync_home.html) provides the same private, local sync like AeroFS. the Tonido solution is very mature and it also has mobile apps for all the popular mobile OSes (iOS,Android, Blackberry and Windows 7.5)
- slig 14y ago
  OT, but this picture from Tonico is funny http://www.tonido.com/images/syncarch_mobile.png http://www.tonido.com/images/syncarch_mobile.png Couldn't they find a newer PC clipart or is it some kind of quirk humor?
- blueeye 14y ago
  Tonido looks solid. How come i have not heard of it?
- urza 14y ago
  last time I checked, the Tonido syncing app had 2GB limit to syncing feature in free version
  - minm 14y ago
    When it become not acceptable to charge money for a software service. Tonido is a mature offering and works. Customers are ready to pay money for its worth. I would rather choose a software that will charge money for it rather than a free one.
zapt02 14y ago
No open source? Invite-only? Totally uninteresting.
- mmagin 14y ago
  I gave them my email address for an invite months ago, and since then I've seen lots and lots of talk about AeroFS, but still it's not available, so I lost interest. If you have a web page and a blog and repeatedly get mentioned on HN, but you don't release some kind of public beta for more than 6 months, you're crazy.
  - ctrlaltesc 14y ago
    I did get an invite and installed, but I can't actually do anything with it. There's no Android client, so it just sits on my laptop doing nothing. I thought it would at least have some sort of local network sharing service like DAAP, UPnP or anything at all.
    - yurisagalov 14y ago
      The Android client is under very active development. If you'd like, feel free to upvote http://support.aerofs.com/forums/67721-feature-requests/suggestions/1561175-create-an-android-application http://support.aerofs.com/forums/67721-feature-requests/sugg... and you'll get notified as soon as it's ready!
  - flippyhead 14y ago
    Yeah I was excited too. We actually got invites, but when we ran into trouble, were never able to get a response from support and gave up.
    - yurisagalov 14y ago
      That's quite unusual and unfortunate! If you're still willing, give our newest version a tryshoot me an email at yuri@aerofs.com and I'll make sure someone looks at your problems ASAP. We're actually usually very responsive in our support channels (support@aerofs.com, twitter, and the support.aerofs.com forums), so my sincere apologies.
- bascule 14y ago
  Closed source is a definite dealbreaker: how do I know there aren't horrible flaws in their cryptographic protocols? Short of reverse engineering their binaries there's not you can do. The features AeroFS provides seem incredibly similar to what you can get from open source alternatives, for example the Tahoe-LAFS distributed encrypted filesystem and Duplicati: Tahoe: http://www.tahoe-lafs.org/ http://www.tahoe-lafs.org/ Duplicati: http://www.duplicati.com/ http://www.duplicati.com/ (can store data to Tahoe-LAFS)
hemancuso 14y ago
Honest question to the AeroFS team: is AeroFS ever going to ship, even into public beta? The earliest referenced story on HN is 792 days old. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1538731 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1538731 If Ars is doing a review of your beta, you should certainly be able to convince yourself there is a MVP in your hands. Why the perpetual private beta? Wouldn't you rather find out if this is something lots of people want and would be willing to pay for? I would worry you finally ship the thing and realize that you need to tailor it to a different audience. Or perhaps the folk are willing to pay are rather happy with Dropbox and a centralized model.
- yurisagalov 14y ago
  Hola, The Ars review (while super awesome) was actually completely unexpected and unsolicited. I realize that we first posted about AeroFS almost two years ago, but we haven't been idle, and we have been releasing invites regularly. Users have also been able to invite other users to AeroFS from day one, and many of them ahve been doing this. We keep AeroFS in private beta mostly because we have an already overwhelming amount of feedback to work with. We want to make sure that we make the users who are with us today (and who have been with us for the past two years) as happy as possible, before releasing it to the masses. Cheers, Yuri (ps. sorry for the late response, today was the last day of one of our interns and we took him out for lunch)
  - goronbjorn 14y ago
    Is there any way to bump one's priority on the invite list? I've been waiting for at least a year.
  - codex 14y ago
    The problem with this private beta, as I see it, is that you've gotten a sizeable portion of your potential early adopters interested in the product; but now you just repeatedly frustrate them by keeping them out of the beta without even so much as an email update. I've been on your list for years with nothing but radio silence. You might have been better off staying in stealth mode, because now, whenever I hear the term "AeroFS" I just feel irked and disappointed. It's like you're trying to alienate your biggest fans.
jsilence 14y ago
Not holding my breath for AeroFS. Following Git Annex Assistant development blog and waiting for the beta. Sounds awsome! http://git-annex.branchable.com/design/assistant/blog/ http://git-annex.branchable.com/design/assistant/blog/
- jlgreco 14y ago
  Oh man, I am so excited about git-annex assistant. As nice as dropbox is, it still involves far to much file-shuffling for me to get full enjoyment out of it. (Also, its new Android application is... unfortunate). git-annex assistant really seems like it will become the killer feature of whatever device you put it on though. Do you know if you can still donate to his kickstarter campaign to get in on the betas? I know he blew away his goal and time is up, but that guy works for far too little.
  - jsilence 14y ago
    There is a Flattr button on the annex front page. Subscribed for a year...
- k2enemy 14y ago
  I'm very excited for git annex assistant. I've been looking for a few years for a "Dropbox with my own server" type of service that I can use to easily keep large files in sync. There are a handful of programs like unison that do the syncing well, but don't have nice fsevent type triggers for all platforms. Git based programs like Sparkleshare don't work because git chokes on large repositories. Syncany seems to be abandoned. AeroFS was close, but it kept syncing huge files back and forth between my computers when they hadn't been modified. Now I'm eagerly waiting to try git annex assistant.
namityadav 14y ago
This sign-in exists only so that your Aero FS-running computers can get the 2048-bit RSA encryption keys keys they need—your computers then authenticate against each other using these keys, and can do so even if the AeroFS servers are down. Does this mean that if AeroFS goes down (gets sold, shut-down, whatever), the clients running on my machines will continue to sync P2P?
- yurisagalov 14y ago
  For the most part, yes, until your certificates expire :)
  - yelloweye 14y ago
    Is aerofs java based?
  - vyrotek 14y ago
    Good to know! I got my beta invite recently and I'm excited to play around with it. Out of curiosity, what's the lifespan of the cert?
newman314 14y ago
I'm less concerned about source being available and would rather know if AeroFS is ready to serve a replacement for Dropbox to store my 1Password files. On a side note: Release notes for AeroFS http://support.aerofs.com/knowledgebase/articles/93285-release-notes http://support.aerofs.com/knowledgebase/articles/93285-relea...
ph0rque 14y ago
DropBox should just buy AeroFS.
rdl 14y ago
I've been using AeroFS beta for a while, and so far, it is my favorite of the file sharing systems. It isn't as good as big local disk for video editing or anything, but great for keeping team files in sync across a bunch of machines.
visarg 14y ago
I would need an iPhone version too, in order to make it an equivalent of DropBox. Also, it's beta - there are going to be problems, bugs, etc. DropBox is polished. When AeroFS will be as polished, then it will be attractive on account of the ability to have much larger storage space and privacy.
weazl 14y ago
I've been waiting for an invite for well over a year, maybe two years, don't really remember. Frankly I'm more than a little annoyed. Why even bother having an invite feature if you never send out invites? It's just being dishonest.
fiendsan 14y ago
Cool review from Ars as always, but Aerofs by staying this long closed, is kinda slowly killin itself, There is pleanty of added competition now, even from the big guys (dropbox, gdrive, skydrive,...), and now there is even for the exact same functions that Aerofs does, like Cubby... and im using Cubby for like 2 months... and it works pretty good, got the invite in 2 days, while i've been waiting for my Aerofs invite since like the begining of the year, for me its vaporware.

66 points by vectorbunny 14y ago

minm 14y ago

Tonido Sync (http://www.tonido.com/app_sync_home.html http://www.tonido.com/app_sync_home.html) provides the same private, local sync like AeroFS. the Tonido solution is very mature and it also has mobile apps for all the popular mobile OSes (iOS,Android, Blackberry and Windows 7.5)

slig 14y ago
OT, but this picture from Tonico is funny http://www.tonido.com/images/syncarch_mobile.png http://www.tonido.com/images/syncarch_mobile.png Couldn't they find a newer PC clipart or is it some kind of quirk humor?
blueeye 14y ago
Tonido looks solid. How come i have not heard of it?
urza 14y ago
last time I checked, the Tonido syncing app had 2GB limit to syncing feature in free version
- minm 14y ago
  When it become not acceptable to charge money for a software service. Tonido is a mature offering and works. Customers are ready to pay money for its worth. I would rather choose a software that will charge money for it rather than a free one.

zapt02 14y ago

No open source? Invite-only? Totally uninteresting.

mmagin 14y ago
I gave them my email address for an invite months ago, and since then I've seen lots and lots of talk about AeroFS, but still it's not available, so I lost interest. If you have a web page and a blog and repeatedly get mentioned on HN, but you don't release some kind of public beta for more than 6 months, you're crazy.
- ctrlaltesc 14y ago
  I did get an invite and installed, but I can't actually do anything with it. There's no Android client, so it just sits on my laptop doing nothing. I thought it would at least have some sort of local network sharing service like DAAP, UPnP or anything at all.
  - yurisagalov 14y ago
    The Android client is under very active development. If you'd like, feel free to upvote http://support.aerofs.com/forums/67721-feature-requests/suggestions/1561175-create-an-android-application http://support.aerofs.com/forums/67721-feature-requests/sugg... and you'll get notified as soon as it's ready!
- flippyhead 14y ago
  Yeah I was excited too. We actually got invites, but when we ran into trouble, were never able to get a response from support and gave up.
  - yurisagalov 14y ago
    That's quite unusual and unfortunate! If you're still willing, give our newest version a tryshoot me an email at yuri@aerofs.com and I'll make sure someone looks at your problems ASAP. We're actually usually very responsive in our support channels (support@aerofs.com, twitter, and the support.aerofs.com forums), so my sincere apologies.
bascule 14y ago
Closed source is a definite dealbreaker: how do I know there aren't horrible flaws in their cryptographic protocols? Short of reverse engineering their binaries there's not you can do. The features AeroFS provides seem incredibly similar to what you can get from open source alternatives, for example the Tahoe-LAFS distributed encrypted filesystem and Duplicati: Tahoe: http://www.tahoe-lafs.org/ http://www.tahoe-lafs.org/ Duplicati: http://www.duplicati.com/ http://www.duplicati.com/ (can store data to Tahoe-LAFS)

hemancuso 14y ago

Honest question to the AeroFS team: is AeroFS ever going to ship, even into public beta? The earliest referenced story on HN is 792 days old. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1538731 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1538731 If Ars is doing a review of your beta, you should certainly be able to convince yourself there is a MVP in your hands. Why the perpetual private beta? Wouldn't you rather find out if this is something lots of people want and would be willing to pay for? I would worry you finally ship the thing and realize that you need to tailor it to a different audience. Or perhaps the folk are willing to pay are rather happy with Dropbox and a centralized model.

yurisagalov 14y ago
Hola, The Ars review (while super awesome) was actually completely unexpected and unsolicited. I realize that we first posted about AeroFS almost two years ago, but we haven't been idle, and we have been releasing invites regularly. Users have also been able to invite other users to AeroFS from day one, and many of them ahve been doing this. We keep AeroFS in private beta mostly because we have an already overwhelming amount of feedback to work with. We want to make sure that we make the users who are with us today (and who have been with us for the past two years) as happy as possible, before releasing it to the masses. Cheers, Yuri (ps. sorry for the late response, today was the last day of one of our interns and we took him out for lunch)
- goronbjorn 14y ago
  Is there any way to bump one's priority on the invite list? I've been waiting for at least a year.
- codex 14y ago
  The problem with this private beta, as I see it, is that you've gotten a sizeable portion of your potential early adopters interested in the product; but now you just repeatedly frustrate them by keeping them out of the beta without even so much as an email update. I've been on your list for years with nothing but radio silence. You might have been better off staying in stealth mode, because now, whenever I hear the term "AeroFS" I just feel irked and disappointed. It's like you're trying to alienate your biggest fans.

jsilence 14y ago

Not holding my breath for AeroFS. Following Git Annex Assistant development blog and waiting for the beta. Sounds awsome! http://git-annex.branchable.com/design/assistant/blog/ http://git-annex.branchable.com/design/assistant/blog/

jlgreco 14y ago
Oh man, I am so excited about git-annex assistant. As nice as dropbox is, it still involves far to much file-shuffling for me to get full enjoyment out of it. (Also, its new Android application is... unfortunate). git-annex assistant really seems like it will become the killer feature of whatever device you put it on though. Do you know if you can still donate to his kickstarter campaign to get in on the betas? I know he blew away his goal and time is up, but that guy works for far too little.
- jsilence 14y ago
  There is a Flattr button on the annex front page. Subscribed for a year...
k2enemy 14y ago
I'm very excited for git annex assistant. I've been looking for a few years for a "Dropbox with my own server" type of service that I can use to easily keep large files in sync. There are a handful of programs like unison that do the syncing well, but don't have nice fsevent type triggers for all platforms. Git based programs like Sparkleshare don't work because git chokes on large repositories. Syncany seems to be abandoned. AeroFS was close, but it kept syncing huge files back and forth between my computers when they hadn't been modified. Now I'm eagerly waiting to try git annex assistant.

namityadav 14y ago

This sign-in exists only so that your Aero FS-running computers can get the 2048-bit RSA encryption keys keys they need—your computers then authenticate against each other using these keys, and can do so even if the AeroFS servers are down. Does this mean that if AeroFS goes down (gets sold, shut-down, whatever), the clients running on my machines will continue to sync P2P?

yurisagalov 14y ago
For the most part, yes, until your certificates expire :)
- yelloweye 14y ago
  Is aerofs java based?
- vyrotek 14y ago
  Good to know! I got my beta invite recently and I'm excited to play around with it. Out of curiosity, what's the lifespan of the cert?

newman314 14y ago

I'm less concerned about source being available and would rather know if AeroFS is ready to serve a replacement for Dropbox to store my 1Password files. On a side note: Release notes for AeroFS http://support.aerofs.com/knowledgebase/articles/93285-release-notes http://support.aerofs.com/knowledgebase/articles/93285-relea...

ph0rque 14y ago

DropBox should just buy AeroFS.

rdl 14y ago

I've been using AeroFS beta for a while, and so far, it is my favorite of the file sharing systems. It isn't as good as big local disk for video editing or anything, but great for keeping team files in sync across a bunch of machines.

visarg 14y ago

I would need an iPhone version too, in order to make it an equivalent of DropBox. Also, it's beta - there are going to be problems, bugs, etc. DropBox is polished. When AeroFS will be as polished, then it will be attractive on account of the ability to have much larger storage space and privacy.

weazl 14y ago

I've been waiting for an invite for well over a year, maybe two years, don't really remember. Frankly I'm more than a little annoyed. Why even bother having an invite feature if you never send out invites? It's just being dishonest.

fiendsan 14y ago

Cool review from Ars as always, but Aerofs by staying this long closed, is kinda slowly killin itself, There is pleanty of added competition now, even from the big guys (dropbox, gdrive, skydrive,...), and now there is even for the exact same functions that Aerofs does, like Cubby... and im using Cubby for like 2 months... and it works pretty good, got the invite in 2 days, while i've been waiting for my Aerofs invite since like the begining of the year, for me its vaporware.