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The reportings at the time said that he was Mark’s 5th choice or similar. It is fairly clear he would prefer Ilya, Murati, Mark Chen, and perhaps others, but th

The reportings at the time said that he was Mark’s 5th choice or similar. It is fairly clear he would prefer Ilya, Murati, Mark Chen, and perhaps others, but they said no, and Alex Wang was the first one to say yes.

tsunamifury 1y ago
Why in the world would he want Murati? She has absolutely no technical chops and was not functionally CTO of OpenAI.
- shuckles 1y ago
  Because she was CTO of OpenAI.
  - CuriouslyC 1y ago
    Pretty ironic when access to trade secrets and people skills is seen as more important in a technical field than technical competence.
    - shuckles 1y ago
      For the record, I doubt the CTO of OpenAI is the best person to fund if you're looking for trade secrets on training and deploying SOTA LLMs. They are two levels too far from reality to know anything useful.
- hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
  > was not functionally CTO of OpenAI. Why do you say that?
  - tsunamifury 1y ago
    Her history was entirely non technical up until openAI.
    - hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
      I think that's total BS, based on this article about her, https://fortune.com/2025/10/03/mira-murati-career-ai-thinking-machines-goldman-sachs-tesla-leap-openai/ https://fortune.com/2025/10/03/mira-murati-career-ai-thinkin... 1. She has 2 BAs, one in math and one in mechanical engineering. 2. She was an "Advanced Concepts Engineer at Zodiac Aerospace from 2012 to 2013". 3. She was a product manager at Tesla on the Model X 4. She was VP of product and engineering at Leap Motion. Going from that fact that she wasn't a deep learning researcher to "her history was entirely non technical up until Open AI" is plain false. And plus, the job of CTO is 90%+ people management, and she appears more than smart enough and experienced enough to evaluate technical decisions of her team.
      - tsunamifury 1y ago
        I think you havent been in tech long enough to know what that resume is.
        bobxmax 1y ago
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- bobxmax 1y ago
  What technical chops does Sam Altman have?
  - tsunamifury 1y ago
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  - seanmcau 1y ago
    He started coding at age 8
arthurcolle 1y ago
The self-supervised mesa-optimizer strikes again

tsunamifury 1y ago

Why in the world would he want Murati? She has absolutely no technical chops and was not functionally CTO of OpenAI.

shuckles 1y ago
Because she was CTO of OpenAI.
- CuriouslyC 1y ago
  Pretty ironic when access to trade secrets and people skills is seen as more important in a technical field than technical competence.
  - shuckles 1y ago
    For the record, I doubt the CTO of OpenAI is the best person to fund if you're looking for trade secrets on training and deploying SOTA LLMs. They are two levels too far from reality to know anything useful.
hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
> was not functionally CTO of OpenAI. Why do you say that?
- tsunamifury 1y ago
  Her history was entirely non technical up until openAI.
  - hn_throwaway_99 1y ago
    I think that's total BS, based on this article about her, https://fortune.com/2025/10/03/mira-murati-career-ai-thinking-machines-goldman-sachs-tesla-leap-openai/ https://fortune.com/2025/10/03/mira-murati-career-ai-thinkin... 1. She has 2 BAs, one in math and one in mechanical engineering. 2. She was an "Advanced Concepts Engineer at Zodiac Aerospace from 2012 to 2013". 3. She was a product manager at Tesla on the Model X 4. She was VP of product and engineering at Leap Motion. Going from that fact that she wasn't a deep learning researcher to "her history was entirely non technical up until Open AI" is plain false. And plus, the job of CTO is 90%+ people management, and she appears more than smart enough and experienced enough to evaluate technical decisions of her team.
    - tsunamifury 1y ago
      I think you havent been in tech long enough to know what that resume is.
      - bobxmax 1y ago
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bobxmax 1y ago
What technical chops does Sam Altman have?
- tsunamifury 1y ago
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- seanmcau 1y ago
  He started coding at age 8

arthurcolle 1y ago

The self-supervised mesa-optimizer strikes again