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It is genuinely amazing how fast it feels like it happened. The whole monica lewisnky thing happened because there was an investigation into Clinton making may

It is genuinely amazing how fast it feels like it happened. The whole monica lewisnky thing happened because there was an investigation into Clinton making maybe 100k off a partnership with a guy who later got arrested. Granted that was over 20 years ago now, but like, hillarys emails???

billy99k 1y ago
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- estearum 1y ago
  That's not what happened. What they said is that it was definitely a violation, there did not appear to be a chargeable crime.
  - AnimalMuppet 1y ago
    Regular people get charged for that level of violating regulations around classified information. They also get charged for having classified information in their bathroom or in their garage.
    - estearum 1y ago
      Yeah agreed. I'm not sure any civilian politician would really be charged for that type of violation though. Would've been nice if the DNC apparatus didn't downplay as if it didn't matter at all though: it does! Note that this is actually quite different from the Mar-a-Lago case where Trump was asked to return documents, he said he did, then said he didn't have them, then asked people "what if we just said we didn't have them", then he was asked to return them again, and he said he didn't know anything about it.
      - wredcoll 1y ago
        > Would've been nice if the DNC apparatus didn't downplay as if it didn't matter at all though: it does How exactly are you supposed to respond to the republican weaponization of the investigatory process for partisan political gain? In the grand scheme of things, it really actually was not a "big deal".
    - pyuser583 1y ago
      People like our current President. And former president. And former CIA director. It seems like lots of high level officials are being irresponsible in handling condfidential information. Either the rules are counter-intuitive, or difficult to follow, or officials are highly incentivized not to follow them. But for some reason, lots of them aren't. It makes public accountability very difficult.
    - oliwarner 1y ago
      But the emails weren't classified. That was part of the problem, but that does stop it being a crime.
  - Khaine 1y ago
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- tastyface 1y ago
  Meanwhile, everything DOGE did was *orders of magnitude* worse. Republicans? Not a peep.
- kahrl 1y ago
  DAWG.
- blooalien 1y ago
  > ... "the added cherry from the 'security' community saying that hosting your own email server for confidental emails is no big deal." Literally nobody (sane) in the security community would ever say that. On the contrary, they'll tell you that running your own email server for any reason is a whole can of worms that nobody wants to mess with, and if you give them twenty minutes of your time to listen intently, they'll list you a whole laundry-list of reasons why.
  - wredcoll 1y ago
    Note how he switched from the word "classified" to "confidential". A bit of a different meaning there.

billy99k 1y ago

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estearum 1y ago
That's not what happened. What they said is that it was definitely a violation, there did not appear to be a chargeable crime.
- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  Regular people get charged for that level of violating regulations around classified information. They also get charged for having classified information in their bathroom or in their garage.
  - estearum 1y ago
    Yeah agreed. I'm not sure any civilian politician would really be charged for that type of violation though. Would've been nice if the DNC apparatus didn't downplay as if it didn't matter at all though: it does! Note that this is actually quite different from the Mar-a-Lago case where Trump was asked to return documents, he said he did, then said he didn't have them, then asked people "what if we just said we didn't have them", then he was asked to return them again, and he said he didn't know anything about it.
    - wredcoll 1y ago
      > Would've been nice if the DNC apparatus didn't downplay as if it didn't matter at all though: it does How exactly are you supposed to respond to the republican weaponization of the investigatory process for partisan political gain? In the grand scheme of things, it really actually was not a "big deal".
  - pyuser583 1y ago
    People like our current President. And former president. And former CIA director. It seems like lots of high level officials are being irresponsible in handling condfidential information. Either the rules are counter-intuitive, or difficult to follow, or officials are highly incentivized not to follow them. But for some reason, lots of them aren't. It makes public accountability very difficult.
  - oliwarner 1y ago
    But the emails weren't classified. That was part of the problem, but that does stop it being a crime.
- Khaine 1y ago
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tastyface 1y ago
Meanwhile, everything DOGE did was *orders of magnitude* worse. Republicans? Not a peep.
kahrl 1y ago
DAWG.
blooalien 1y ago
> ... "the added cherry from the 'security' community saying that hosting your own email server for confidental emails is no big deal." Literally nobody (sane) in the security community would ever say that. On the contrary, they'll tell you that running your own email server for any reason is a whole can of worms that nobody wants to mess with, and if you give them twenty minutes of your time to listen intently, they'll list you a whole laundry-list of reasons why.
- wredcoll 1y ago
  Note how he switched from the word "classified" to "confidential". A bit of a different meaning there.