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This has nothing to do with superintelligence, it's just the people that were working on the paper prior to the re-org happened to publish after the name change
by ipsum2 1y ago
This has nothing to do with superintelligence, it's just the people that were working on the paper prior to the re-org happened to publish after the name change.
Though it is notable that contrary to many (on HN and Twitter) that Meta would stop publishing papers and be like other AI labs (e.g. OpenAI). They're continued their rapid pace of releasing papers AND open source models.
- Zacharias030 1y agoShould be the top comment. MSL is not only those few high profile hires.
- ekianjo 1y agoOpen weights models, not open source. And even their weights are under a specific license not as permissive as apache 2.
- drexlspivey 1y agoDoes an “open source” model the way you describe it exist or is it a mythical creature?
- kaufmann 1y agoApertus by EPFL and ETH Zürich.
- qcoret 1y agoUnicorns also don't exist, but we don't change the definition to include horses.
- omneity 1y agoThere aren’t many but they do exist. OLMo for example.
- Rattled 1y agoOlmo by AllenAI and Pythia by EleutherAI.
- ayewo 1y agoAn open source model does exist now [1] and is multilingual. Previous discussion [2]. [1] https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2025/07/a-language-model-built-for-the-public-good.html https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2025/07/a-l... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44535637 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44535637
- CaptainOfCoit 1y agoIt does, but does it matter? Even if every software released in 2025 was proprietary, doesn't make their published binaries "open source" because no other software could be classified as "open source". We name things based on what they are, not based on the lack of other things.
- ekianjo 1y agoI believe it does. OLMO.
- HPsquared 1y agoThis is the right terminology. Model weights are literally compiled binary data; they are the output of an algorithm run on a bunch of source data. That training dataset is the "source" of the model. Training data (or the scripts used to generate it) is human-readable and modifiable, like source code. Binary weights are not.
- carom 1y agoJust to note though, source copyright extends to its compiled form. There is probably an analogue there for model weights.
- jeremyjh 1y agoTell me about the companies that own the copyrights to their training data.
- phkahler 1y agoBinary weights can still be "edited" with additional training.
- sdeframond 1y agoI propose that from now on we call freewares "open binaries".
- hippo22 1y agoI'm not a lawyer, but I believe that the weights aren't subject to copyright. So, you can use them outside of Meta's license agreement provided you get them from somewhere else.
- pityJuke 1y agoWhat model(s) have Meta released since the Lab re-org? Also, that wasn't based on purely hearsay, Zuck explicitly said: > We believe the benefits of superintelligence should be shared with the world as broadly as possible. That said, superintelligence will raise novel safety concerns. We'll need to be rigorous about mitigating these risks and careful about what we choose to open source. Still, we believe that building a free society requires that we aim to empower people as much as possible. [0] [0]: https://www.meta.com/superintelligence/ https://www.meta.com/superintelligence/
- ipsum2 1y agoThat has always been the policy. To answer your question, Meta has released ~100 models since the Superintelligence Lab reorg. https://huggingface.co/facebook/models https://huggingface.co/facebook/models The most interesting ones to me are: - CWM (Code world model), an LLM for coding https://github.com/facebookresearch/cwm https://github.com/facebookresearch/cwm - DINOv3, A vision encoder https://ai.meta.com/dinov3/ https://ai.meta.com/dinov3/ - MAPAnything, a 3d reconstruction model https://huggingface.co/facebook/map-anything https://huggingface.co/facebook/map-anything - VJEPA v2, Self-supervised video pre-training model https://github.com/facebookresearch/vjepa2 https://github.com/facebookresearch/vjepa2
- gessha 1y agoYou still believe anything that comes out of his mouth?
- PatronBernard 1y agoWhen did Zuck start caring about society?
- cwmoore 1y agoIs this a trick question? Probably before he was even born.
- throwaway314155 1y ago
- RataNova 1y agoStill, I think the optics matter... the fact that Meta's still putting out technical work (and open sourcing it) after the restructure says a lot about where they want to position themselves