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I am getting really mixed signals here. First the Pro features used to be free (libre), but now they no longer are. The features are supposedly not really neede

I am getting really mixed signals here. First the Pro features used to be free (libre), but now they no longer are. The features are supposedly not really needed, but then they being sold. What's with the Pro bundler? Why do we need a bundler in the first place, what is it supposed to do that a regular bundler like Vite cannot? And now there are two more frameworks (Rocket and Stellar) that won't be Free and Open Source at all? If this is just about providing monetary support for the project then just do what everyone else is doing: sell support or pre-built copy&past examples. If the plugins are nothing special and can be replaced by a one-liner I would be even more pissed after paying 300$ for them. Either these guys are really, really bad at communication, or this smells really fishy. If anything, this blog post makes me trust them even less that they won't enshittify Datastart by moving more stuff to Pro and having the FLOSS version be the ghetto version.

wolfgangbabad 1y ago
The author is very aggressive and pushy, he makes fun of people who disagree with him on Discord and now even here on hackernews. Notice the pattern of his comments/responses - he tends to belittle people. On Discord he use vulgar language - here he is more careful to maintain image. But it still permeates through his comments no matter how hard he tries to mask his true self.
- sudodevnull 1y ago
  We tell people to show code and to prove their positions instead of asserting them blindly. If you got pushback it's 100% because of that
naasking 1y ago
> I am getting really mixed signals here. First the Pro features used to be free (libre), but now they no longer are. That's not my understanding. From what I read, the open source "features" were incomplete, the Pro versions are polished products. I don't understand the rest of your post, don't use a bundler if you don't see the point. Datastar is tiny and modular, any proprietary features could be replaced by open source version, you don't need to depend on anything proprietary. What's the risk you're worried about here? Finally, selling support for a tiny library that's well tested, robust and fast is not viable. What do you see as the business case here?

wolfgangbabad 1y ago

The author is very aggressive and pushy, he makes fun of people who disagree with him on Discord and now even here on hackernews. Notice the pattern of his comments/responses - he tends to belittle people. On Discord he use vulgar language - here he is more careful to maintain image. But it still permeates through his comments no matter how hard he tries to mask his true self.

sudodevnull 1y ago
We tell people to show code and to prove their positions instead of asserting them blindly. If you got pushback it's 100% because of that

naasking 1y ago

> I am getting really mixed signals here. First the Pro features used to be free (libre), but now they no longer are. That's not my understanding. From what I read, the open source "features" were incomplete, the Pro versions are polished products. I don't understand the rest of your post, don't use a bundler if you don't see the point. Datastar is tiny and modular, any proprietary features could be replaced by open source version, you don't need to depend on anything proprietary. What's the risk you're worried about here? Finally, selling support for a tiny library that's well tested, robust and fast is not viable. What do you see as the business case here?