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And that's why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved in this prosecution and prosecutions like it. If the case is as described here, there

And that's why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved in this prosecution and prosecutions like it. If the case is as described here, there should be jail time involved for kidnapping and false imprisonment. But any justice system always protects their own.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved Do we have names of the arresting officers, prosecutors and judge this is in front of? With that we can determine who above them is elected.
- culll_kuprey 1y ago
  > "numerous…teachers, parents and students" somehow interpreted Bushart's meme—with its citation in fine print about a previous school shooting at Perry High School in Perry, Iowa—as a threat to carry out a similar shooting at nearby Perry County High School. Wouldn’t matter. Those elected would likely be re elected. This wasn’t Trump advising some federal agency to bully someone he doesn’t like. It was the community organizing. This is the will of the people.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Wouldn’t matter. Those elected would likely be re elected This is just rationalising laziness and nihilism. They may get re-elected. That doesn't mean you can't create a lot of chaos and cost for them along the way. Like, I wish my adversaries would preëmptively conclude that even attempting to oppose me is not worth it. > This is the will of the people You're concluding this how?
    - IlikeKitties 1y ago
      You are 100% correct. Just recently a single website that linked some e-mail addresses destroyed the EU Plans for chat control. Apathy and Cynicism would've led it happen but just the act of making one website and posting it at the right places, something everyone here could easily do, changed the course of law dramatically. That small victory really made me reconsider.
      - DirkH 1y ago
        What website is this?
- grafmax 1y ago
  I think you have a lot of faith in democratic processes at this point, despite widespread evidence such as this very article that they are being clearly undermined.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > you have a lot of faith in democratic processes at this point I think civic laziness and nihilism, particularly in Silicon Valley, did a lot to get us to where we are.
    - krapp 1y ago
      Yes, if people actually had faith in democratic processes, they would have standards for the people they elect, and be involved in civics and actvism. Corruption is endemic precisely because people don't care. Or more accurately, because the only people who do care are the people who benefit from corruption.
      - grafmax 1y ago
        We would benefit from more civic engagement, but let’s not mischaracterize the situation. Those with more money really do have more power, which they use to buy more influence directly through legalized bribery or indirectly through media control. A choice between two candidates is like that between Coke and Pepsi, one a bit sweeter than the other but both manufactured by the ownership class. Consider the Gaza genocide, corporate handouts, mass surveillance - it is a long list of what politicians support contrary to popular will. The solution is indeed more civic engagement - not simply being satisfied with voting in a rigged system and going home but engaging in other forms of popular power like labor organizing as well. It’s our economy they rely on and we have real power to shut it down through solidarity and mass strikes. What we need to up our game, especially in this time as our democratic institutions are being completely unraveled.
- astura 1y ago
  >With that we can determine who above them is elected "This country is for people like me, I want people not like me punished severely" is very much a mainstream opinion in the US. This is how people win elections, not lose them.
- vkou 1y ago
  The people who vote for those positions in Tennessee like this sort of bullshit.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved Do we have names of the arresting officers, prosecutors and judge this is in front of? With that we can determine who above them is elected.

culll_kuprey 1y ago
> "numerous…teachers, parents and students" somehow interpreted Bushart's meme—with its citation in fine print about a previous school shooting at Perry High School in Perry, Iowa—as a threat to carry out a similar shooting at nearby Perry County High School. Wouldn’t matter. Those elected would likely be re elected. This wasn’t Trump advising some federal agency to bully someone he doesn’t like. It was the community organizing. This is the will of the people.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Wouldn’t matter. Those elected would likely be re elected This is just rationalising laziness and nihilism. They may get re-elected. That doesn't mean you can't create a lot of chaos and cost for them along the way. Like, I wish my adversaries would preëmptively conclude that even attempting to oppose me is not worth it. > This is the will of the people You're concluding this how?
  - IlikeKitties 1y ago
    You are 100% correct. Just recently a single website that linked some e-mail addresses destroyed the EU Plans for chat control. Apathy and Cynicism would've led it happen but just the act of making one website and posting it at the right places, something everyone here could easily do, changed the course of law dramatically. That small victory really made me reconsider.
    - DirkH 1y ago
      What website is this?
grafmax 1y ago
I think you have a lot of faith in democratic processes at this point, despite widespread evidence such as this very article that they are being clearly undermined.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > you have a lot of faith in democratic processes at this point I think civic laziness and nihilism, particularly in Silicon Valley, did a lot to get us to where we are.
  - krapp 1y ago
    Yes, if people actually had faith in democratic processes, they would have standards for the people they elect, and be involved in civics and actvism. Corruption is endemic precisely because people don't care. Or more accurately, because the only people who do care are the people who benefit from corruption.
    - grafmax 1y ago
      We would benefit from more civic engagement, but let’s not mischaracterize the situation. Those with more money really do have more power, which they use to buy more influence directly through legalized bribery or indirectly through media control. A choice between two candidates is like that between Coke and Pepsi, one a bit sweeter than the other but both manufactured by the ownership class. Consider the Gaza genocide, corporate handouts, mass surveillance - it is a long list of what politicians support contrary to popular will. The solution is indeed more civic engagement - not simply being satisfied with voting in a rigged system and going home but engaging in other forms of popular power like labor organizing as well. It’s our economy they rely on and we have real power to shut it down through solidarity and mass strikes. What we need to up our game, especially in this time as our democratic institutions are being completely unraveled.
astura 1y ago
>With that we can determine who above them is elected "This country is for people like me, I want people not like me punished severely" is very much a mainstream opinion in the US. This is how people win elections, not lose them.
vkou 1y ago
The people who vote for those positions in Tennessee like this sort of bullshit.