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> Far from decreasing CO2 emissions we are not only continuing to increase but doing so at an increasing rate. Objectively untrue. Globally, though the rise ov
by zahlman 1y ago
> Far from decreasing CO2 emissions we are not only continuing to increase but doing so at an increasing rate.
Objectively untrue. Globally, though the rise over the last couple of decades is disturbing, emissions are most likely leveling off again; they may have broken past the mid 2010s levels and appear to be rapidly rising in the last few years, but this is just a slight "over-recovery" from the impressive ~5.7% drop in 2020 (mainly from COVID restrictions of course). US emissions peaked in 2005 and were ~18.6% lower in 2023 (the last year of Our World in Data figures). And, you know, China is pivoting.
https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions
> and its going to be catastrophic.... But we sure did...
This attitude tends to inspire unproductive doomerism rather than urgent change.
- nosianu 1y ago> Objectively untrue. No, that is true already. Look at the "rate" tab of the Mauna Kea data, it shows growth on average. Of the rate of CO 2 growth. https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gr.html https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gr.html
- rsanek 1y agoYou're looking at total atmospheric CO2, which is increasing at an increasing rate. The OP's claim was about CO2 emissions, however, which are increasing at a decreasing rate.
- zahlman 1y agoThat data lags because it's noisy and because it's measuring the air, which lags production of the CO2. The rate of increase has been increasing as India and especially China have been undergoing economic revolution, but China is also now known to be pivoting on their energy policy. That's already underway, not just planned (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45545644 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45545644).
- vdupras 1y agoAbsence of necessary urgent change tend to inspire doomerism.