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This update is one of the rare cases where I really dislike the new version. I’m usually happy with Apple updates, even ones the commentators dislike. This ti
by porcoda 1y ago
This update is one of the rare cases where I really dislike the new version. I’m usually happy with Apple updates, even ones the commentators dislike. This time I’m sorta agreeing with them: I don’t like the new iOS. Same with the Mac and iPad: other than being glitchy, I just don’t like the changes. It feels like my screen real estate isn’t as efficiently used, UI elements feel jumbled and the transparency makes things harder to read. I’m sure I’ll get used to it over time but I’m not enjoying it so far, even after going into the settings to try to adjust things I don’t care for. Not my favorite update cycle from Apple, and I’m usually one of the overly positive folks on whatever Apple ships.
- donmcronald 1y agoOn my Mac I almost laugh at how massive the borders are to accommodate the freakishly large corner radius. The next version might have round windows at this pace.
- mrducksy 1y agoGet a glimpse of your favorite apps with our new Apple Peephole technology!
- dpark 1y agoThose corners are just weird. The 3rd party apps are all still doing the old radius which highlights how pointlessly large the new radius is.
- int_19h 1y agoI found that there's one upside to it: the empty space "outside" the corner still counts as part of the window, but it also works as a hot corner for drag and drop window resizing purposes. That said, it's still comically large, and actually intrudes onto app UI in some cases, especially with scrollbars.
- whycome 1y agoIt’s terrible from a UX standpoint. By definition, translucent elements present more potential information to a user. It makes it harder to parse certain screens. It’s a nightmare if you have subtle vision issues (where it’s not bad enough you’d need to enable accessibility options). You’re not going to “get used to it” — you’re really just adapting to a crippled interface. I think it all stems from trying to unify the UX/UI across devices, and to also pull the Vision VR device into that iphone-iPad-MacBook-watch grouping. Handoff and other cross-device interactions suffer when you have significantly different UI elements or interactions.
- jijijijij 1y agoNot even form over function, it's fucking ugly. How did this get past the draft board?
- whycome 1y agoPrioritizing AR-type UX elements to make adoption of future apple AR devices easier?
- Reason077 1y agoThe problem is designs and elements that were carefully considered and crafted for Vision OS don't always translate well when grafted into iOS and macOS. What looks elegant and modern in AR can look garish, distracting, and old-fashioned on a more traditional device.
- nicce 1y agoYou can finally see senders’ and receivers’ email address properly in the mail app. Something positive!
- shermantanktop 1y agoSame. I'm just not someone with strong feelings about UX consistency or appearance, and tend to focus on functionality. But this...this feels like a symptom of something fundamental inside Apple going wrong.
- walkabout 1y agoThe only time before this I've felt like Apple took a huge UX or appearance dive on an OS upgrade was iOS6 -> iOS7. People complain about almost every macOS upgrade, but the closest they've come to bothering me is that I hated the new tab styles in desktop Safari they introduced a while ago, but that was configurable so I just set it back to normal and that was that. I've disliked other things (the Touch Bar was never anything but a way for me to accidentally open Music—I basically had to disable it to make any of those MacBooks usable) but never really been bothered by an OSX/macOS update's appearance. So, I didn't expect to mind this at all, despite lots of people apparently hating it. Then I upgraded. And yeah, it's remarkably shitty looking, first time I've agreed with the "haters" for a macOS release. It looks like an above-average GTK theme, which is to say, awful. Plus they found a new and different way to make Safari's tabs look like crap (and I'd swear tab manipulation is super laggy now, where it wasn't before) and this time I can't fix it with a settings toggle. Like, that element specifically looks and feels like it's from a below average GTK theme.
- sethops1 1y agoHeh, I submitted a complaint with Apple every day until they reverted those Safari tab styles. Awful design. There is something deeply broken inside Apple allowing these broken, awful designs get out.
- lotsofpulp 1y agoPeople are getting paid based on how many changes they effect.
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- llbbdd 1y agoI'd be ambivalent about it if it didn't ship broken. My Mac updated the other day and I don't think I've seen the glass top bar work correctly once. In fullscreen in particular it doesn't work at all, the background that it's meant to be blurring gets stuck and never changes, so it just looks like shit and is nearly unreadable. I'm not on any beta track or anything so this is what normal people get. I have no idea how they felt good shipping it.
- archagon 1y agoIt looks pretty (sometimes) but I have not found a single usability improvement stemming from the new paradigm.
- fiddlerwoaroof 1y agoOne thing I’ve noticed is that search fields are now generally at the bottom of the screen which makes them a lot easier to activate. (No more flicking the screen down to search). I disliked the update for a week or so at first, but I have to say I find the liquid animations fun now.
- pcdoodle 1y agofun?
- majewsky 1y ago> I have to say I find the liquid animations fun now. This might be the most harrowing review that you can give without realizing it. UI animations are supposed to get out of the way. If you can recognize them as "fun", the most likely interpretation is that they are forcing you to expend attention, which in this age is one of your most valuable resources.
- fiddlerwoaroof 1y agoThese aren’t animations that add any time: a lot of the liquid UI elements are just fun to fidget with while bored
- archagon 1y agoTrue, the search fields are in a better position now, but this really has nothing to do with the liquid glass paradigm. This could have been done in the previous designs just as well, I think.
- operator-name 1y agoFrom reading this thread I’m glad I’m not alone. It seems their “compact” mode has a bunch of invisible gestures that you’re just supposed to know about. Luckily I’ve also discovered that you can revert back to “bottom” tab mode in the settings, which brings back something similar to the old UI.
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- scelerat 1y agoI suppose an upvote should be sufficient, but I am so unhappy with the new UI I am actually holding off switching to a new M4 MBP and sticking to my old M1 still on Sequoia 15.7.1. I also try to give these things time and I am usually ok with the changes eventually, but the new UI elements are so incredibly distracting it's actually affecting my ability to focus on what I'm actually doing.
- Reason077 1y agoAt least with Macs you are free to choose and downgrade to any OS version that you like, so long as that version supports your hardware. macOS 15.7.1 will run just fine on any M4 Mac, and Apple will likely continue to release 15.x updates for a year or so yet, and security updates even beyond that. It's not like iOS where, once updated, you're generally blocked from ever downgrading back to a previous OS version.
- OGEnthusiast 1y agoThe M4 MBP, even if it comes pre-installed with Tahoe, can still be downgraded to Sequoia via DFU restore. The real cut-off will be the M5 Macs, which only Tahoe and above will have hardware support for.
- lethologica 1y agoI just bought a M4 MBA, my first since a 2014 MBP. I absolutely hated the 26 update on my phone and iPad but honestly don’t even notice it on my MacBook.
- shantara 1y agoI decided to postpone an iPhone upgrade for another year rather than be forced to use iOS 26 without a downgrade option. This is the only way to send a signal.
- seemaze 1y agoI upgraded iOS after I discovered that the AirPods Pro 3 lose native integration with iOS 18 and macOS 15. Hated it so much, I sent the AirPods Pro 3 back for discounted AirPods Pro 2 and am considering trading my upgraded iPhone in for the latest model I can get on iOS 18. I'm going to ride iOS 18 and macOS 15 into the sunset and then leave the Apple ecosystem.
- gedy 1y agoIt honestly wouldn't bee too bad on macOS if they kept this mostly to the window chrome, or things that really need to float. But adding this to all the toolbar buttons, in Safari and Finder looks just like some 3rd party theme hack, it's really tacky. They also didn't seem to consider dark mode well or at all.
- jsbisviewtiful 1y agoSame boat. I started with the third public beta on my iPhone and the UX overhaul has not grown much on me. I reversed the Safari layout back to the previous, the combined Phone sections are not intuitive (and I almost reversed back to the previous with that too), the lock screen change is not bad but also not bringing more usability... The lack of new lock screen widgets is baffling. The overall appearance... it's hideous. Everything looks unfocused/muddy, colors look gross, readability is down and practically everything is clunky. I changed my Home Screen apps to all clear so I wouldn't have to look are the loud and oversaturated colors. Def not Apple's best work and confusing how we got here. The spam filtering for texts and phone calls is the prize change for the entire OS, which is funny because Apple Intelligence is still somewhat worthless even a year and a big update later. Genmoji, the only good thing about it, still fails 50%+ of the time.
- what-the-grump 1y agoHonest question, I run with a black background I didn’t notice anything major going to Tahoe outside of my battery life taking a major hit. What are some of the elements that have major impact?
- tombert 1y agoThe transparency thing stopped being cute when I couldn't easily differentiate between Gmail, ProtonMail, and Apple Mail. These icons had color, used that color to differentiate them. I don't think this is atypical, we have color screens for a reason.
- andix 1y agoThe glass style for iOS app icons is completely idiotic. It's optional though. It doesn't even look good, it just makes the home screen look a little less crowded, but the UX is horrible. Especially widgets are really bad. The widget for my car shows the battery level as a bar chart. During charging it's green, if there is a charging error it's red, when parked it's white/gray. In the glass mode I need to look really hard to see what's happening. All the color coded information is gone. Same for my todo list widget, due items are orange, long overdue items are red. With glass mode on they all look the same.
- bavent 1y agoBeyond that, it’s buggy and inconsistent. In dark mode, text boxes suddenly become light mode when they expand to add a second entry line. Buttons aren’t aligned within their containers properly. Some times buttons are in light mode when my phone is in dark mode, or if I open an app, it starts out in light mode and then suddenly switches to dark mode after a second or two. There is a noticeable lag when I back out of a message before it loads the other conversations in iMessage. I think I had tracked 15+ things I would easily qualify as bugs the first two days after upgrading my phone - this would be absolutely unacceptable where I work, and we aren’t a trillion-dollar company with psychotic hiring standards. Was this even QAed? I don’t like the look, but that’s a personal thing, these are actual issues that are not subjective.
- andix 1y agoIn my opinion Liquid Glass is still an alpha release. Nothing is really finished, it's conceptually unfinished, the changes are not well thought through, and it's really buggy. I think they failed with Apple Intelligence (also a mess, without being useful) and needed something big. So they planned this big design change. When they realized they failed miserably, it was too late to undo it.
- tsunamifury 1y agoLiquid Glass was clearly rushed to cover for the total failure of Apple Intelligence. Even the design being criticized distracts from fraudulently selling phones based on features never shipped.
- andix 1y agoThe recently presented ChatGPT apps are what Apple Intelligence (and Siri) should've been. Some chat/voice interface, that can access data from installed apps and trigger actions. It should've been a home run for Apple. ChatGPT starts with zero existing apps, Apple has one of the biggest app ecosystem, and with (Siri) Shortcuts they already have most of the necessary interfaces available for years.
- moscoe 1y agoFor the first time ever, I haven’t yet updated to the new version of iOS.
- alsetmusic 1y agoThis article gave me hope that when I finally have to upgrade my Mac to keep up with system requirements for software updates on third-party apps, maybe I won't hate it as much as I expected to. It's a mess, but the screenshots in this article give me hope that it doesn't have to be a complete and total disaster. [0] How to Turn Liquid Glass into a Solid Interface: 0: https://tidbits.com/2025/10/09/how-to-turn-liquid-glass-into-a-solid-interface/ https://tidbits.com/2025/10/09/how-to-turn-liquid-glass-into...
- lynndotpy 1y agoIf it were implemented as intended, it would just be very ugly, slower, and a waste of battery life. But a lot of it is really just broken. In the past hour, I saw a number of funny glitches. The funny glitches are better than the glitches where things crash or hang. On MacOS, it even requires running terminal commands at startup to fix performance regressions. This is hitting people who aren't tech-savvy particularly hard, and it makes my position as a security advocate ("always update your devices!") hard to maintain. For most people, not updating their devices means they have more reliability and consistency in their devices, because of things like this. The one good thing with iOS 26 is that Apple reverted their destructive redesign of the iOS 18 Photos app. Maybe they can be hurt enough to revert the destructive redesigns throughout iOS 26. I hope to some day read a book describing what's been happening at Apple these past few years. It's safe to assume not a single person at Apple thought this was ready to release, and yet it did. This has to be the result of some serious dysfunction as-of-yet not known to the public.
- DrammBA 1y ago> On MacOS, it even requires running terminal commands at startup to fix performance regressions. You can't just say that and not share the goods
- lynndotpy 1y agoSorry about that, caveat that these are commands I found online which I don't honestly entirely know what they do. They seem harmless enough. launchctl setenv CHROME_HEADLESS 1 defaults write -g NSAutoFillHeuristicControllerEnabled -bool false
- dpark 1y agoIt’s flashy for the sake of flashy and poorly done. It’s tacky. I can’t believe Apple shipped this.
- setopt 1y agoSame here. I was about to order a new MacBook recently, but there’s been a lot of small issues annoying me over the past few years and Liquid Glass was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. Back to Linux for me. Ended up ordering a Thinkpad X1 Carbon instead, and am planning to throw Fedora on it.
- EasyMark 1y agoI always wait for each point release and see if complaints are up or down. I can adjust to about any UI, as long as 80-90% stays the same. For example I ditched windows almost completely at 8 when they left the classic look and went for tablet mode. That's when I went to Mac, I'd been an avid linux user since the 90s though. What I can't put up with are bugs, so I wait out reviews and such from actual technical people and tech sites like reddit and hackernews. It's a policy that hasn't failed me yet.