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We cannot pull an App from the App Store and would never do that if we could. We are drafting a response. Please give us a few minutes to get something up on

by jhaynie 14y ago

We cannot pull an App from the App Store and would never do that if we could. We are drafting a response. Please give us a few minutes to get something up on the Q&A thread on our dev site. http://developer.appcelerator.com/question/142516/warning-licensing-of-titanium-chaotic-and-unclear-how-to-avoid-extortionate-fees http://developer.appcelerator.com/question/142516/warning-li... Jeff (CEO of Appcelerator).

andrewcooke 14y ago
please also explain how/why the final customer was contacted. knowing nothing about this, it seems like the licencing issue could be a misunderstanding with the developer. but contacting the people that developer was selling to seems very odd. [edit: and... you avoided the issue completely. pity.]
eclipxe 14y ago
Has nothing to do with pulling the app from the app store - it's all about breaking the trust and contacting the customer directly. Bad move.
SpikeGronim 14y ago
Thanks for responding here Jeff. The license on https://github.com/appcelerator/titanium_mobile https://github.com/appcelerator/titanium_mobile is Apache 2.0. How can you possibly ask for money from a developer who used Apache 2.0 code? It seems like a black and white issue and that you are in the wrong. Please address the Apache 2.0 license in your response.
- prpatel 14y ago
  They don't. I've used Appcelerator for a number of projects that are now on the App store(s) and haven't ever worried about this. The source code is on Github under the Apache license as you mentioned. This is enough for me and my lawyers to not worry about it.
  - erichocean 14y ago
    How does that possibly prevent their sales people from contacting your customers and demanding $5000 or their app gets pulled?
- tedunangst 14y ago
  Everything is black and white when you've only heard one side of the story.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    He is asking for the other side...
    - SpikeGronim 14y ago
      Yes, that was my intent. I was asking for the other side to make a clear response and specifically to mention the Apache license in their response. They made a vague, long winded, PR-speak response which did not address any of the issues. I continue to judge them for bad business practices and ethics. If they provide more evidence that paints a better picture I'll listen.

by jhaynie 14y ago

andrewcooke 14y ago

please also explain how/why the final customer was contacted. knowing nothing about this, it seems like the licencing issue could be a misunderstanding with the developer. but contacting the people that developer was selling to seems very odd. [edit: and... you avoided the issue completely. pity.]

eclipxe 14y ago

Has nothing to do with pulling the app from the app store - it's all about breaking the trust and contacting the customer directly. Bad move.

SpikeGronim 14y ago

Thanks for responding here Jeff. The license on https://github.com/appcelerator/titanium_mobile https://github.com/appcelerator/titanium_mobile is Apache 2.0. How can you possibly ask for money from a developer who used Apache 2.0 code? It seems like a black and white issue and that you are in the wrong. Please address the Apache 2.0 license in your response.

prpatel 14y ago
They don't. I've used Appcelerator for a number of projects that are now on the App store(s) and haven't ever worried about this. The source code is on Github under the Apache license as you mentioned. This is enough for me and my lawyers to not worry about it.
- erichocean 14y ago
  How does that possibly prevent their sales people from contacting your customers and demanding $5000 or their app gets pulled?
tedunangst 14y ago
Everything is black and white when you've only heard one side of the story.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  He is asking for the other side...
  - SpikeGronim 14y ago
    Yes, that was my intent. I was asking for the other side to make a clear response and specifically to mention the Apache license in their response. They made a vague, long winded, PR-speak response which did not address any of the issues. I continue to judge them for bad business practices and ethics. If they provide more evidence that paints a better picture I'll listen.