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Doesn't Norway bring that conclusion in doubt? The state gets massive revenue from oil as well as oil-financed investments, but is still very much a democracy.[

Doesn't Norway bring that conclusion in doubt? The state gets massive revenue from oil as well as oil-financed investments, but is still very much a democracy.[0] [0] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu?tab=table https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu?tab=t...

29athrowaway 1y ago
Because they need they still need the favor of the populace for collective defense and territorial control. The regional military powers have more population.
iambateman 1y ago
Sure. It’s also possible Norway is just an outlier and not the coming norm. I personally - as an American of Norwegian descent - am proud of how they’ve built much of their country…and I hope we can learn from it.
- kalavan 1y ago
  It might be that democratic countries are more resilient to that kind of effect because (and to the degree that) they already decouple productive power from representation. E.g. a welfare state doesn't make sense from a purely GDP-selfish perspective, beyond as a crime-prevention tool, since people on disability benefits don't work. But they still exist.
  - Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
    Sometimes I believe that democratic systems can also be so polarized (as america) and rest of the countries that they simply split a country into two pieces somehow. One might want lets say welfare to the youth/masses and the other wouldn't want it sometimes it feels like just to differentiate themselves from the first or to just contradict it. We have sort of stopped coming to common agreements in republicans and democrats and heck some democrat bsky user pasted me an AI pic for something and when I said that it doesn't actively contribute to the thread they had the balls to say "Google things.Do your own research. Research." Like uh okay mate, we are on the same page but even then they came across as passive agressive :/ We just infight and never try to reach conclusion's man. And if we do and become tolerant, some intolerant freak hijacks the system, maybe the system's broken a little, I am not sure. but I know its the best hope
- netsharc 1y ago
  According to this article, it was down to 1 Iraqi: https://www.ft.com/content/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feabdc0 https://www.ft.com/content/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feab...
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- keybored 1y ago
  > Sure. It’s also possible Norway is just an outlier and not the coming norm. It’s a petrostate NATO country that the US can’t nearly as crazily obviously meddle with and more importantly exploit. That is the outlier.
mxkopy 1y ago
The differentiating factor is that Norway wasn’t colonized.

29athrowaway 1y ago

Because they need they still need the favor of the populace for collective defense and territorial control. The regional military powers have more population.

iambateman 1y ago

Sure. It’s also possible Norway is just an outlier and not the coming norm. I personally - as an American of Norwegian descent - am proud of how they’ve built much of their country…and I hope we can learn from it.

kalavan 1y ago
It might be that democratic countries are more resilient to that kind of effect because (and to the degree that) they already decouple productive power from representation. E.g. a welfare state doesn't make sense from a purely GDP-selfish perspective, beyond as a crime-prevention tool, since people on disability benefits don't work. But they still exist.
- Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
  Sometimes I believe that democratic systems can also be so polarized (as america) and rest of the countries that they simply split a country into two pieces somehow. One might want lets say welfare to the youth/masses and the other wouldn't want it sometimes it feels like just to differentiate themselves from the first or to just contradict it. We have sort of stopped coming to common agreements in republicans and democrats and heck some democrat bsky user pasted me an AI pic for something and when I said that it doesn't actively contribute to the thread they had the balls to say "Google things.Do your own research. Research." Like uh okay mate, we are on the same page but even then they came across as passive agressive :/ We just infight and never try to reach conclusion's man. And if we do and become tolerant, some intolerant freak hijacks the system, maybe the system's broken a little, I am not sure. but I know its the best hope
netsharc 1y ago
According to this article, it was down to 1 Iraqi: https://www.ft.com/content/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feabdc0 https://www.ft.com/content/99680a04-92a0-11de-b63b-00144feab...
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keybored 1y ago
> Sure. It’s also possible Norway is just an outlier and not the coming norm. It’s a petrostate NATO country that the US can’t nearly as crazily obviously meddle with and more importantly exploit. That is the outlier.

mxkopy 1y ago

The differentiating factor is that Norway wasn’t colonized.