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Two questions: 1. This is a Vite rugpull, right? 2. What the hell do I migrate to to avoid the rugpull, now? Lots of stuff builds on top of Vite, and this is
by yencabulator 1y ago
Two questions:
1. This is a Vite rugpull, right?
2. What the hell do I migrate to to avoid the rugpull, now?
Lots of stuff builds on top of Vite, and this is an incredibly bad move from the Vite people.
- rasso 1y agoIt‘s not by the vite team.
- yencabulator 1y agoLooks like the same people to me: https://vite.dev/team.html https://vite.dev/team.html https://voidzero.dev/team https://voidzero.dev/team Voidzero Inc owns the Vite trademark: https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98845059&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98845059&caseSearchType=U...
- rasso 1y agoOh my… thanks for the research and sorry for my lazy assumption!
- yurishimo 1y ago1. No, they’ve been talking about it for months publicly. 2. Nothing because Vite is OSS and this is something extra on top for managing everything else people usually use on a project. Did you watch the keynote from the conference today? The conference attended by all the people who you see as great contributors to the Vite project? They want this. This is good for the ecosystem to maintain funding as a whole.
- yencabulator 1y agoJust because it's a slow motion rugpull doesn't make something not a rugpull. I did not watch any keynote and frankly place exactly 0% faith in the words of the people behind this move. The rugpulls we have seen so far have all been shady business moves mostly by dishonest people, so that is my expectation. It's like every acquisition ever, they say nice words at the time it happens, reality unfolds later: https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/ https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/ I see nothing here but yet another Open Core project that will be utterly irrelevant in 1-3 years.
- EvanYou 1y agoA rugpull means taking back something that was given. Before Vite+, we maintain Vite, Rolldown, Oxc, all of which are open source and widely used. These remain open source - nothing changes about existing projects. Vite+ is an entirely new product built on top of our own open source, with additional features that are entirely new. You don't need to use Vite+. You can keep using all the open source that we already provide. The revenue generated from Vite+ flows back into the development of both its proprietary features the underlying OSS. So if you are a user of our OSS, you'd benefit from Vite+ even if you don't use it, because it allows us to keep improving the OSS you are using.
- yencabulator 1y agoVite is now open core, where whatever you think belongs in the commercial part is not welcome as open source. Rugpull means building a community around an open source project, and then trying to transfer that community to a non-open source product.
- EvanYou 1y agoWrong - Vite is not open core, Vite+ is. This differentiation is important because even if a feature benefits Vite+, if it needs to be shipped via Vite then it has to be open source. Companies willing to pay for Vite+ help sustain and improve the open source parts powering it, including Vite. Even if you only use Vite and not Vite+, you’d benefit from the success of Vite+, not the other way around. I don’t really find anything inherently wrong with your definition of “rugpull”. If some people in the community are happy to pay for it and the rest also benefit because of it, that’s a win-win in my book.
- yencabulator 1y agoThe line between Vite and Vite+ exists mostly inside your head. From the outside, Vite is the open core and some set of features are only in Vite+. Best of luck with your commercial project. History has not been kind to open core projects.