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The nine universities include: Vanderbilt University Dartmouth College the University of Pennsylvania the University of Southern California Massachusetts I

The nine universities include: Vanderbilt University Dartmouth College the University of Pennsylvania the University of Southern California Massachusetts Institute of Technology the University of Texas at Austin the University of Arizona Brown University the University of Virginia

laidoffamazon 1y ago
I didn’t realize UA was here - even UVA and UT as more egalitarian institutions are a weird set to include.
- etchalon 1y ago
  UT is, for better or worse, still in Texas. And Texas has yet to discover a Trump/MAGA initiative it doesn't embrace.
runako 1y ago
This is a motley list. I am guessing the criteria for inclusion was an administration staffer (or their offspring) was not able to secure admission.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  For anyone confused like me, a definition of motley is “Having elements of great variety or incongruity; heterogeneous.” I think a lot of the neural connections to the word motley come from the expression “motley crew” which has fairly negative connotations. But the truth of the matter is, this is just a very varied group of schools; some great schools on the list. I won’t say any of the schools are not great, because of course some alum will come along and say “actually we had a great department for some niche computational thing” and I’ll be embarrassed to not have known that.
  - runako 1y ago
    I meant it in the sense of heterogeneous. The list includes public & private institutions across a variety of states and size ranges. It singles out particular institutions in state university systems (e.g. University of Texas at Austin but not Texas A&M or University of Texas at El Paso). Half the list is in the northeast, while the midwest and Pacific Northwest are not represented. It's 9 institutions, not 10. It's just an odd list.
    - bee_rider 1y ago
      I 100% agree!
- TheCondor 1y ago
  That's a very favorable interpretation. It looks an awful lot like a sampling designed to identify who the "enemies" are.
  - justin66 1y ago
    I was thinking it was a rare display of caution on the part of otherwise careless idiots. (or maybe we just got lucky) They aren't fucking with any of the universities responsible for managing national laboratories.
    - pastel8739 1y ago
      MIT has Lincoln Lab which, while not a DoE national lab, serves a pretty similar purpose for DoD.
nostrademons 1y ago
Interesting. I first heard about this from Newsom's statement that any university that signed it would lose California education funds instantly, but the only California university on it is the private USC. Thought for sure that at least UC Berkeley, UCLA, and Stanford would be on it, but I guess not. Maybe they chose USC because it seems to have a bit more of a conservative bent than most California schools.
- justin66 1y ago
  > Thought for sure that at least UC Berkeley, UCLA, and Stanford would be on it, but I guess not. UC and Stanford manage national laboratories for the US government. Someone might have realized the crisis that could come from that particular confrontation, and decided to steer clear for the moment.

laidoffamazon 1y ago

I didn’t realize UA was here - even UVA and UT as more egalitarian institutions are a weird set to include.

etchalon 1y ago
UT is, for better or worse, still in Texas. And Texas has yet to discover a Trump/MAGA initiative it doesn't embrace.

runako 1y ago

This is a motley list. I am guessing the criteria for inclusion was an administration staffer (or their offspring) was not able to secure admission.

bee_rider 1y ago
For anyone confused like me, a definition of motley is “Having elements of great variety or incongruity; heterogeneous.” I think a lot of the neural connections to the word motley come from the expression “motley crew” which has fairly negative connotations. But the truth of the matter is, this is just a very varied group of schools; some great schools on the list. I won’t say any of the schools are not great, because of course some alum will come along and say “actually we had a great department for some niche computational thing” and I’ll be embarrassed to not have known that.
- runako 1y ago
  I meant it in the sense of heterogeneous. The list includes public & private institutions across a variety of states and size ranges. It singles out particular institutions in state university systems (e.g. University of Texas at Austin but not Texas A&M or University of Texas at El Paso). Half the list is in the northeast, while the midwest and Pacific Northwest are not represented. It's 9 institutions, not 10. It's just an odd list.
  - bee_rider 1y ago
    I 100% agree!
TheCondor 1y ago
That's a very favorable interpretation. It looks an awful lot like a sampling designed to identify who the "enemies" are.
- justin66 1y ago
  I was thinking it was a rare display of caution on the part of otherwise careless idiots. (or maybe we just got lucky) They aren't fucking with any of the universities responsible for managing national laboratories.
  - pastel8739 1y ago
    MIT has Lincoln Lab which, while not a DoE national lab, serves a pretty similar purpose for DoD.

nostrademons 1y ago

Interesting. I first heard about this from Newsom's statement that any university that signed it would lose California education funds instantly, but the only California university on it is the private USC. Thought for sure that at least UC Berkeley, UCLA, and Stanford would be on it, but I guess not. Maybe they chose USC because it seems to have a bit more of a conservative bent than most California schools.

justin66 1y ago
> Thought for sure that at least UC Berkeley, UCLA, and Stanford would be on it, but I guess not. UC and Stanford manage national laboratories for the US government. Someone might have realized the crisis that could come from that particular confrontation, and decided to steer clear for the moment.