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You can't build tcc from Nixpkgs if you are in the UK
- RGBCube 1y agoThis won't affect most users as they will be using the cache.nixos.org substituter and haven't modified any package that pulls repo.or.cz repositories, but it's still amusing.
- whatshisface 1y agoThe UK should make exceptions for its legal firewall for scientific and economic access.
- freedomben 1y agoThat would either create a gigantic loophole that makes the safety act toothless, or it would create a giant bureacracy of people who review and approve applications. Either outcome is sub-optimal. The real answer is to repeal this nonsense (IMHO as a non-UK citizen)
- noir_lord 1y agoAgreed, as a UK citizen. It as always a stupid idea, see recent discord leak of ID’s.
- driverdan 1y agoThe UK shouldn't have stupid ID requirement laws at all.
- tripplyons 1y agoI agree, but I sadly believe these requirements will spread to other countries, including the US. The US Supreme Court recently ruled that Texas' ID law is somehow constitutional.
- bigstrat2003 1y ago"Constitutional" doesn't mean it's a good law, just that it is not prohibited for the state to make such a law. I personally don't like the law but I have a hard time seeing how it would be unconstitutional.
- hnlmorg 1y agoI felt the GP was making that same point.
- sterlind 1y agoit should be unconstitutional because it's clearly a content-based restriction of speech, meaning that regulating it entails strict scrutiny. strict scrutiny requires Texas to use the least burdensome means possible to satisfy the state's legitimate interest in preventing minors from accessing obscene content - probably a home network filter appliance parents can opt into. this is what they held in Paxton v. NetChoice (iirc.) instead, the Court contorted themselves into holding that adults have accessing content obscene to minors without furnishing their ID isn't protected speech. porn still is protected speech, but proving your age isn't protected speech. as a result, the law is content-neutral, not content-based.. somehow. it was a low point for the Court - clear activist justices legislating morality from the bench.
- tripplyons 1y agoPreviously, these kinds of laws violated the 1st Amendment, but the changes in the composition of Supreme Court justices have led to different rulings.
- exasperaited 1y agoWhat do you mean "spread to"? The USA passed a dozen such bills into state law before this actually came into effect. That states compete to ignore each other's laws doesn't change a thing.
- tripplyons 1y agoFor the US, I'm referring to federal laws or more laws in more states. As for other countries, the EU just delayed the vote for "Chat Control" as recently as yesterday!
- ChocolateGod 1y agoA lot of the groups pushing these laws actually have good motives (e.g. child abuse charities) but it's clear the current law and implementations are not the solution.
- rwmj 1y agoSo I think this law is stupid. But it's also popular, for the reason "something should be done, this is something, so this should be done". I doubt that exceptions are going to be made until the effects are felt strongly by everyone. Geoblocking a .cz site used by a tiny number of developers is not having any effect.
- o11c 1y agoAnd as always, the answer to "something should be done, but not this" is "then suggest something else that actually addresses the problem". The internet is full of dishonest "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas."
- debugnik 1y ago> then suggest something else that actually addresses the problem As opposed to the original suggestion that doesn't actually address the problem? How is proposing that in the first place more honest than calling it out?
- chris_wot 1y ago“Something should be done, so let’s do something stupid and harmful, and all you critics have nothing to add so our stupid thing that causes harm is what you must accept”. That’s some incredible logic.
- o11c 1y agoI never once said we had to settle for this solution. I absolutely said that there is a real problem, and the people in the best position to make a real solution have absolutely no desire to do anything about it. Remember that previous status quo was "I'd rather make money off of child abuse, because nobody is stopping us". This is the end result of self-regulation, so show me something better.
- chris_wot 1y agoYes, but implicit in your statement was that the awful solution should be implemented if you don’t have a better solution. I don’t have a better solution. But I don’t need to accept a detrimental “solution” needs to be implemented. Nor am I obligated to find the better solution.
- mongol 1y agoWhat is repo.or.cz? It sounds like the domain name is saying something but I don't understand.
- tasn 1y agoMaybe Orcs?
- 0x457 1y agoIt is a super simple git repo hosting/mirror based in EU. https://repo.or.cz https://repo.or.cz
- AceJohnny2 1y agoIt's one of the older Git hosts, predating Github.
- netsharc 1y agoProbably someone preferred the 3-level domain system (like UK's .co.uk, .gov.uk, e.g. bbc.co.uk) in .cz, and made .or.cz. This is probably before the time people thought "Oh we can make the domains be words, like 'del.icio.us', that'd be cute!"...
- rwmj 1y agoI think the headline should more accurately be that repo.or.cz has a UK geo-block. I'm unclear why it has one, since it's highly unlikely either that the site contains anything that is covered by the OSA, nor that even if it did, the people running the site should care.
- __float 1y agoIt's a bit hard to find, but going to the service's Mastodon account eventually leads one to https://repo.or.cz/uk-blocked.html https://repo.or.cz/uk-blocked.html
- RGBCube 1y agoThe linked GitHub isssue links to that page, too.
- subscribed 1y agoThey specifically listed their reasons in the geoblock message. As a someone impacted by this I applaud their decision. I also hope more high-profile cases like Wikipedia[1] will surface and expose the utter idiocy of the deliberately vague language of the language and the "guidance". [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2025/09/12/wikimedia-foundation-challenges-uk-online-safety-act-regulations/ https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2025/09/12/wikimedia-fo...
- bitdivision 1y agoIt hosts user uploaded content I would guess, so presumably the OSA could apply to them.
- ruuda 1y agoIt says so at https://repo.or.cz/uk-blocked.html https://repo.or.cz/uk-blocked.html: > UK's Online Safety Act 2023 would require us to do a prohibitively complicated risk assessment for our service. We're talking reading through thousands of pages of legal guidelines. > We're a volunteer operation and would likely be held responsible as individuals. There is talk of fines up to 18 million GBP which would ruin any single one of us, should they get creative about how to actually enforce this. > Our impression is that this law is deliberately vague, deliberately drastic in its enforcement provisions, and specifically aimed against websites of all sizes, including hobby projects. In other words, this seems to us to be largely indistinguishable from an attempt to basically break the internet for all UK citizens. > If we could afford to just hope for the best, we'd love to. The way I understand this is that it's not feasible for them to assess how the legislation impacts them, so they would rather stay safe than risk having their lives destroyed.
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- rich66man 1y agoSimilar stuff happens often with Russian IP addresses, you just gotta deal with it I guess
- WesolyKubeczek 1y agoOne reason is DDoS attacks come overwhelmingly from those IPs. Plug them in your firewall, and it’s calm all of a sudden.
- betaby 1y agohttps://blog.cloudflare.com/ddos-threat-report-for-2024-q4/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/ddos-threat-report-for-2024-q4/
- viraptor 1y agoIt doesn't matter what you do at the firewall level. It's too late. If anyone wants to volume DDoS you, they'll send traffic regardless just to overload your connection.
- stek29 1y agohttps://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/10/ddos-botnet-aisuru-blankets-us-isps-in-record-ddos/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/10/ddos-botnet-aisuru-blank...
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- mastax 1y agoIf you're willing to insure them for 18M GBP of liability perhaps they'll reconsider.
- exasperaited 1y agoIt's almost certainly a) imaginary and b) performative. Like; > After this, I know I will think twice about visiting the UK Reallllyyy? Over a bit of porn blocking? Do we not think maybe this is just for show? What do they imagine is going to happen at the border -- their iPhone gets frisked for Page Three nudes? More to the point, are they banning Texas? Indiana? Oklahoma? Georgia? North Dakota? France? Or are they just hyperventilating about the latest thing from Britain? Perhaps they think unless Tommy Robinson saves us no-one can.
- dundarious 1y agoSuggest you read up on that law a bit more, they're not responding to targeting of porn, nothing of the sort.
- exasperaited 1y agoI have read up on the law. They have no reason to worry and even if they did, given the extent of non-compliance in the porn industry, they are so far down the pecking order that this reaction looks like what it is: activist narcissism.
- dundarious 1y agoFair enough, don't share your confidence, nor the service's reticence to visit in person (at least over this issue).
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- mindslight 1y agoIs this supposed to be a big deal? I use NixOS as a source distribution (nix.settings.substituters = lib.mkForce [ ]) and I get failures when fetching sources pretty regularly. Sometimes the URLs are missing, sometimes the hashes have changed. My usual fix is to fetch the source from cache.nixos.org with nix copy. I'd say the right answer is to move/add a content addressed model/system for obtaining sources.
- charcircuit 1y ago>I'd say the right answer is to move/add a content addressed model/system for obtaining sources. Isn't that almost what the nix file already is while being legal. Having a cache of all build files is not legal to do.
- baobun 1y agoNot really. Content-addressed implies that if the content changes, so does its address, such that returning a different result for the same address is a hard protocol violation. Having a content hash as (part of) the address is common way to this. IPFS multihash is a well-known example. As opposed to HTTP.
- andrewchambers 1y agoWas playing around with the idea of p2p source hosting in package trees like nix and did a little weekend package prototype here of my own here: https://github.com/magnet-linux/magnet-linux https://github.com/magnet-linux/magnet-linux Not really ready for prime time, but I think I have some interesting ideas there at least.
- RGBCube 1y agoI'm actually working on my own OS agnostic package collection + system management software, and I've found https://radicle.xyz https://radicle.xyz great for this. All repos depended on by the official package collection t will be on the radicle network.
- TeeMassive 1y agoYou should focus on the p2p part of code and object distribution. While nix is not perfect, people are not going to learn and adopt yet another package manager. A distributed git object cache is what is really needed at the moment.