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>Android is a dead ecosystem. Smart phones are a dead ecosystem. Smartphones are going to become our legal digital identity. While I'm not greatly happy about

>Android is a dead ecosystem. Smart phones are a dead ecosystem. Smartphones are going to become our legal digital identity. While I'm not greatly happy about that, I do see it's inevitability - as no good alternatives have emerged. At least there are two platforms and not just one.

iamnothere 1y ago
> Smartphones are going to become our legal digital identity. This is not a “done deal“ by any means and it’s a mistake to speak of it this way. I for one will reject such a mandate even if it makes life incredibly inconvenient. (I also know others who are switching away from big tech smartphones and who do not intend to return.) We can’t hand off something as essential as ID to these megacorps, as it will only further increase their leverage over governments (i.e. the people). While I’m not happy with many government actions lately, at least they are nominally accountable!
- intrasight 1y ago
  I said that it's an inevitability not a done deal. Governments will probably provide a backup of sorts - like now when you fly you can say that you don't want your face scanned but the backup is to go wait in another line. The only backup that I can envision is to memorize a long passphrase.
thewebguyd 1y ago
> as no good alternatives have emerged. There's been a good alternative the whole time. It's called not requiring a "digital identity." Anonymity and pseudo-Anonymity on the web has worked, and would continue to work. We don't need device attestation that you are running a specific OS, from a specific vendor, with specific apps (or not) to interact with the digital world. People have been interacting with digital services from a computer web browser without that tech since the 90s. If a digital identity is a must (and I don't think it is), it should at minimum not be tied to a proprietary, locked down OS on proprietary hardware that you don't own or control. I'd rather my "legal digital identity" be a public/private key pair that I control, not tied to any specific device.
- intrasight 1y ago
  > We don't need device attestation that you are running a specific OS, from a specific vendor, with specific apps (or not) to interact with the digital world. None of that. Just your ID.

iamnothere 1y ago

> Smartphones are going to become our legal digital identity. This is not a “done deal“ by any means and it’s a mistake to speak of it this way. I for one will reject such a mandate even if it makes life incredibly inconvenient. (I also know others who are switching away from big tech smartphones and who do not intend to return.) We can’t hand off something as essential as ID to these megacorps, as it will only further increase their leverage over governments (i.e. the people). While I’m not happy with many government actions lately, at least they are nominally accountable!

intrasight 1y ago
I said that it's an inevitability not a done deal. Governments will probably provide a backup of sorts - like now when you fly you can say that you don't want your face scanned but the backup is to go wait in another line. The only backup that I can envision is to memorize a long passphrase.

thewebguyd 1y ago

> as no good alternatives have emerged. There's been a good alternative the whole time. It's called not requiring a "digital identity." Anonymity and pseudo-Anonymity on the web has worked, and would continue to work. We don't need device attestation that you are running a specific OS, from a specific vendor, with specific apps (or not) to interact with the digital world. People have been interacting with digital services from a computer web browser without that tech since the 90s. If a digital identity is a must (and I don't think it is), it should at minimum not be tied to a proprietary, locked down OS on proprietary hardware that you don't own or control. I'd rather my "legal digital identity" be a public/private key pair that I control, not tied to any specific device.

intrasight 1y ago
> We don't need device attestation that you are running a specific OS, from a specific vendor, with specific apps (or not) to interact with the digital world. None of that. Just your ID.