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Who would you give the Nobel Peace Prize to?

by bmmayer1 1y ago

DSingularity 1y ago
Is that even a question!? Ben Gvir, Smotrich, or Mileikowsky. For raising the bar so high.
- peterfirefly 1y ago
  That would be far worse than Kissinger.
  - DSingularity 1y ago
    I was being sarcastic but definitely happy to see the down votes.
  - megous 1y ago
    Not yet.
delichon 1y ago
From the New York Times "The Daily" podcast today: Mark, what you've described and what we're seeing unfold is genuinely an impressive feat by Trump. To be able to capitalize on what seemed like this giant setback. Israel literally bombed the negotiators and the mediators. To turn that around and get a deal that Biden couldn't get done, that no other leader in the world had managed despite trying for two years straight. It is significant achievement. He was able to bring these sides together that had shown no willingness to end the war. And now they've come to this agreement. And it should also be said that one of the biggest things here is that he was willing to put pressure on Netanyahu in a way that President Biden was unwilling to do. Why do you think that's the case? I think there's a few reasons. First, I think Trump genuinely wanted to end the war. He campaigned on ending the war in Ukraine and in Gaza. Too late for this year, but if it holds it should be considered for next year.
- bobchadwick 1y ago
  "...he was willing to put pressure on Netanyahu in a way that President Biden was unwilling to do." Unwilling or unable? Netanyahu hated Biden and has done everything in his power to sabotage anything Democrats have done to try to help resolve the conflict, even prior to Oct 7.
  - estearum 1y ago
    Not even sure there's evidence of the pressure? What pressure? Trump let Netanyahu run roughshod, and the proposed peace agreement (which almost certainly won't hold) is pretty... let's say vague... about the plan for Gaza post hostage-release. All that's happened here is another agreement to exchange hostages for prisoners, which has happened multiple times in this war already. Not much else is actually agreed to and obviously even less has actually happened.
  - Hikikomori 1y ago
    Unwilling. Biden has been a Zionist and Netanyahu/Likud supporter for decades. They put on a show in press briefings but did nothing behind closed doors, instead kept supplying them.
- raverbashing 1y ago
  Yeah it might be eligible but the academy won't change an upcoming winner in only a few days
  - lb1lf 1y ago
    The nominations for this year's prize closed January 31st; anyone doing anything worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize after that date may be considered for next year.
- jeltz 1y ago
  Trump does not fit the criteria set out by Alfred Nobel. By increasing the NATO spending he worked against "the abolition or reduction of standing armies" and he has made the "fraternity between nations" a lot worse with random threats which I doubt would weight up his "promotion of peace congresses". I really hope they would not award someone the prize who works so blatantly against the word and spirit of the criteria in the will.
Izkata 1y ago
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- lastdong 1y ago
  How many wars has President Trump really ended? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3599gx4qo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3599gx4qo
- mikeyouse 1y ago
  Ah yes, the man actively murdering civilians via illegal drone strikes in the Caribbean and invading US cities with the Department of War, who launched dozens of missiles from stealth bombers over Iran and who has greatly expanded the drone war that Biden has mostly ended. Surely a prime candidate for a peace prize.
  - vixen99 1y ago
    I would love to hear a discussion between you and those who believe Trump has pulled off the diplomatic coup of the century so far. A dispassionate observer might see a touch of TDS. Not me of course. Nobel Peace Prize: to the "person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".
    - mikeyouse 1y ago
      I love how the TDS is used to describe the vast majority of people in the world who see the obvious faults of a geriatric narcissist intent on authoritarian rule and not to describe his supporters who blindly subscribe to all manner of contradictory and previously loathed positions simply because he changes his mind. Or said another way - wouldn’t “TDS” be better used to describe those who spent the last decade insistent on free speech as a sacrosanct issue, the national debt as our primary concern, political targeting by Federal law enforcement as a universal sin, and states rights as the Foundation of our liberties while the Admin works contrary to each of those points in especially galling ways…
- deleted 1y ago

Who would you give the Nobel Peace Prize to?

DSingularity 1y ago

Is that even a question!? Ben Gvir, Smotrich, or Mileikowsky. For raising the bar so high.

peterfirefly 1y ago
That would be far worse than Kissinger.
- DSingularity 1y ago
  I was being sarcastic but definitely happy to see the down votes.
- megous 1y ago
  Not yet.

delichon 1y ago

From the New York Times "The Daily" podcast today: Mark, what you've described and what we're seeing unfold is genuinely an impressive feat by Trump. To be able to capitalize on what seemed like this giant setback. Israel literally bombed the negotiators and the mediators. To turn that around and get a deal that Biden couldn't get done, that no other leader in the world had managed despite trying for two years straight. It is significant achievement. He was able to bring these sides together that had shown no willingness to end the war. And now they've come to this agreement. And it should also be said that one of the biggest things here is that he was willing to put pressure on Netanyahu in a way that President Biden was unwilling to do. Why do you think that's the case? I think there's a few reasons. First, I think Trump genuinely wanted to end the war. He campaigned on ending the war in Ukraine and in Gaza. Too late for this year, but if it holds it should be considered for next year.

bobchadwick 1y ago
"...he was willing to put pressure on Netanyahu in a way that President Biden was unwilling to do." Unwilling or unable? Netanyahu hated Biden and has done everything in his power to sabotage anything Democrats have done to try to help resolve the conflict, even prior to Oct 7.
- estearum 1y ago
  Not even sure there's evidence of the pressure? What pressure? Trump let Netanyahu run roughshod, and the proposed peace agreement (which almost certainly won't hold) is pretty... let's say vague... about the plan for Gaza post hostage-release. All that's happened here is another agreement to exchange hostages for prisoners, which has happened multiple times in this war already. Not much else is actually agreed to and obviously even less has actually happened.
- Hikikomori 1y ago
  Unwilling. Biden has been a Zionist and Netanyahu/Likud supporter for decades. They put on a show in press briefings but did nothing behind closed doors, instead kept supplying them.
raverbashing 1y ago
Yeah it might be eligible but the academy won't change an upcoming winner in only a few days
- lb1lf 1y ago
  The nominations for this year's prize closed January 31st; anyone doing anything worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize after that date may be considered for next year.
jeltz 1y ago
Trump does not fit the criteria set out by Alfred Nobel. By increasing the NATO spending he worked against "the abolition or reduction of standing armies" and he has made the "fraternity between nations" a lot worse with random threats which I doubt would weight up his "promotion of peace congresses". I really hope they would not award someone the prize who works so blatantly against the word and spirit of the criteria in the will.

Izkata 1y ago

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lastdong 1y ago
How many wars has President Trump really ended? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3599gx4qo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3599gx4qo
mikeyouse 1y ago
Ah yes, the man actively murdering civilians via illegal drone strikes in the Caribbean and invading US cities with the Department of War, who launched dozens of missiles from stealth bombers over Iran and who has greatly expanded the drone war that Biden has mostly ended. Surely a prime candidate for a peace prize.
- vixen99 1y ago
  I would love to hear a discussion between you and those who believe Trump has pulled off the diplomatic coup of the century so far. A dispassionate observer might see a touch of TDS. Not me of course. Nobel Peace Prize: to the "person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".
  - mikeyouse 1y ago
    I love how the TDS is used to describe the vast majority of people in the world who see the obvious faults of a geriatric narcissist intent on authoritarian rule and not to describe his supporters who blindly subscribe to all manner of contradictory and previously loathed positions simply because he changes his mind. Or said another way - wouldn’t “TDS” be better used to describe those who spent the last decade insistent on free speech as a sacrosanct issue, the national debt as our primary concern, political targeting by Federal law enforcement as a universal sin, and states rights as the Foundation of our liberties while the Admin works contrary to each of those points in especially galling ways…
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