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> But again, the API design woes are subjective They aren't. This is not good API design <button data-on-clickwindowdebounce.500ms.leading="$foo = ''"

by troupo 1y ago

> But again, the API design woes are subjective They aren't. This is not good API design <button data-on-click__window__debounce.500ms.leading="$foo = ''"></button> > "Wrong" to me suggests a gap in the understanding of fundamentals or of how things work. Snide vaguely dismissive remarks don't make such remarks true. > If the ideas of Datastar are fine to all of us Who's us? Are these "us" in the room with us right now?

hasanhaja 1y ago
> They aren't. This is not good API design Why isn't it a good API design? > Snide vaguely dismissive remarks don't make such remarks true. Agreed! I don't believe I was doing anything of the sort. > Who's us? People on this thread.
sudodevnull 1y ago
We are limited to what is possible in the data dash-* spec. If you have better syntax that's going to work everywhere in every browser please let us know!
- troupo 1y ago
  You literally have a custom Javascript-like DSL already https://data-star.dev/guide/datastar_expressions https://data-star.dev/guide/datastar_expressions This wilful insanity is completely incomprehensible to me (HTMX and lit are also fully infected with it): "Oh no, we are just HTML, we can't do anything" while literally doing tons of things outside of HTML.
  - sudodevnull 1y ago
    What's your alternative that stay HTML spec compliant? Instead of whining show code
    - troupo 1y ago
      > What's your alternative that stay HTML spec compliant? Again: you literally have a custom Javascript-like DSL in Datastar. Use that. It's like the "it's just HTML" or "it's HTML-compliant" mantra somehow damages the brain, or something. Edit: this custom JS-like DSL is so prominent and such a crucial part of Datastar, that it's referenced in the very first paragraph of reference: https://data-star.dev/reference https://data-star.dev/reference Oh, look, your HTML-spec-compliant thing in which it is apparently impossible to do anything outside data-* attributes somehow calls external functions, and updates signals, and reads signals, and does all sorts of things: <div data-signals-result> <input data-bind-foo data-on-input="myfunction(el, $foo)" data-on-mycustomevent__window="$result = evt.detail.value" > <span data-text="$result"></span> </div> But no! It's absolutely impossible to do something about data-on-click__window__debounce.500ms.leading

> But again, the API design woes are subjective They aren't. This is not good API design <button data-on-click__window__debounce.500ms.leading="$foo = ''"

by troupo 1y ago

hasanhaja 1y ago

> They aren't. This is not good API design Why isn't it a good API design? > Snide vaguely dismissive remarks don't make such remarks true. Agreed! I don't believe I was doing anything of the sort. > Who's us? People on this thread.

sudodevnull 1y ago

We are limited to what is possible in the data dash-* spec. If you have better syntax that's going to work everywhere in every browser please let us know!

troupo 1y ago
You literally have a custom Javascript-like DSL already https://data-star.dev/guide/datastar_expressions https://data-star.dev/guide/datastar_expressions This wilful insanity is completely incomprehensible to me (HTMX and lit are also fully infected with it): "Oh no, we are just HTML, we can't do anything" while literally doing tons of things outside of HTML.
- sudodevnull 1y ago
  What's your alternative that stay HTML spec compliant? Instead of whining show code
  - troupo 1y ago
    > What's your alternative that stay HTML spec compliant? Again: you literally have a custom Javascript-like DSL in Datastar. Use that. It's like the "it's just HTML" or "it's HTML-compliant" mantra somehow damages the brain, or something. Edit: this custom JS-like DSL is so prominent and such a crucial part of Datastar, that it's referenced in the very first paragraph of reference: https://data-star.dev/reference https://data-star.dev/reference Oh, look, your HTML-spec-compliant thing in which it is apparently impossible to do anything outside data-* attributes somehow calls external functions, and updates signals, and reads signals, and does all sorts of things: <div data-signals-result> <input data-bind-foo data-on-input="myfunction(el, $foo)" data-on-mycustomevent__window="$result = evt.detail.value" > <span data-text="$result"></span> </div> But no! It's absolutely impossible to do something about data-on-click__window__debounce.500ms.leading