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you're stretching the definition of deception here my guy-what do you want them to do? plaster a big sign on the landing page stating that this framework ALSO c
by mbvisti 1y ago
you're stretching the definition of deception here my guy-what do you want them to do? plaster a big sign on the landing page stating that this framework ALSO contains pro features that you have to pay for?
- porridgeraisin 1y ago> plaster a big sign Yes!! That's table stakes. It's the bare minimum needed to not be considered malice.
- sudodevnull 1y agoWhy? What is at stake?
- porridgeraisin 1y agoBasic decency of being upfront about your business model, and in general being upfront and not being deceitful in life. Anyways, constructively, they should add a usual pricing page with a nav for that at the top of the landing page. It makes it clear that something is priced, right on the landing page. In the pricing page the cards better make the costs super clear.
- hasanhaja 1y agoI'm confused. Datastar is a free open source framework that you can choose to use or not. It's weird to call them out as indecent and deceitful for not actively marketing features that they really don't think you need. Even when you think you need it, they've actively encouraged people to analyze their problems to identify if it's a real need or a gap in hypermedia fundamentals knowledge. Also, the top nav has a Pro page that has what you're looking for.
- bkmq 1y ago”Ready for liftoff?” should have a go-pro button. That’s all that is needed.
- hasanhaja 1y agoWhy have a call-to-action to something they don't want you to do? It's only there for Pro users and people who want to support the project [1] and not normal use. [1] https://data-star.dev/essays/greedy_developer https://data-star.dev/essays/greedy_developer
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- matheusmoreira 1y ago> what do you want them to do? > plaster a big sign on the landing page stating that this framework ALSO contains pro features that you have to pay for? Yes. I for one don't enjoy being on the receiving end of these marketing dark patterns and manipulation tactics.
- mbvisti 1y ago[flagged]
- skeeter2020 1y agoI've commented above that this seems like a bad approach, but it sure feels like a lack of awareness vs. an intentional dark pattern. The internet makes it so easy to assume the worst but I think this is a case where we should start with the most charitable interpretation.
- sudodevnull 1y agoDark pattern? Pro plugins are built in the same way as is accessible to any user. What's the real issue?
- bkmq 1y agoThat you have to go looking, actively, to realise there is a paid option.
- foofoo12 1y ago> what do you want them to do? The common thing to do today is put a "pricing" menu item at the top right. That'd be fine.