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I don't get it. If I'm looking for a new webdev stack, I would obviously want something free, open source. A big "Request early access" followed by a contact f

I don't get it. If I'm looking for a new webdev stack, I would obviously want something free, open source. A big "Request early access" followed by a contact form at the top of the landing page is an instant redflag of vendor locking, who would ever want that?

CaptainOfCoit 1y ago
It's also explicitly not FOSS, "Vite+ will be source-available" it says on the page so effectively proprietary for all intents and purposes. A free pricing plan will be in place that will initially be very generous, but as time goes on and the business will need more money, it'll slowly get worse and worse. Eventually you'll need to migrate away or cough up serious money. So yeah, not sure who'd go for this.
- Cthulhu_ 1y ago
  Enterprise support. If an enterprise can spend less time on tooling setup and maintenance they can spend more on product development. Mind you we use NX at the moment and that was quick and easy enough to set up with no major issues for years now, so I wonder what the USP of this tool is. We also use Vite in some projects in combination with NX so maybe this is mainly aimed at that.
- Muromec 1y ago
  Oh I'm pretty sure my org will be happy to cough up the money the same way it pays for all kinds of other things supporting development. If anything, it could even save money on compute and net while doing it too. I'm concerned that it erodes trust into vite and makes all the other open source maintainers contributing to /the commons/ asking some questions. There is nothing really special about vite too. It's important, sure, but there is a lot of important open source projects that also need funding. Can all of them pull the same trick?
manniL 1y ago
Keep in mind that this is a super early preview. It will be source-available when stable. And it will be free for the community, while companies will have to pay.
- awkwardpotato 1y ago
  Source available is not open source. It does not alleviate the concerns raised by OP or it's top child reply Are you affiliated with this project? Based on your comment history, you seem to be
rk06 1y ago
This is not a webdev stack. It is build tools. you do not ship them to your users (like react/vue) but are you used by developers for local build and CI servers for prod build. As for why? some people have very large codebase and prefers their developers to have better UX and are willing to pay for it. lower CI/CD server costs also directly translate to cost savings if you are Replit or stackblitz, You may not like it, and that is ok. as individual developers are already benefitting from vite. and will get rolldown soon.

CaptainOfCoit 1y ago

It's also explicitly not FOSS, "Vite+ will be source-available" it says on the page so effectively proprietary for all intents and purposes. A free pricing plan will be in place that will initially be very generous, but as time goes on and the business will need more money, it'll slowly get worse and worse. Eventually you'll need to migrate away or cough up serious money. So yeah, not sure who'd go for this.

Cthulhu_ 1y ago
Enterprise support. If an enterprise can spend less time on tooling setup and maintenance they can spend more on product development. Mind you we use NX at the moment and that was quick and easy enough to set up with no major issues for years now, so I wonder what the USP of this tool is. We also use Vite in some projects in combination with NX so maybe this is mainly aimed at that.
Muromec 1y ago
Oh I'm pretty sure my org will be happy to cough up the money the same way it pays for all kinds of other things supporting development. If anything, it could even save money on compute and net while doing it too. I'm concerned that it erodes trust into vite and makes all the other open source maintainers contributing to /the commons/ asking some questions. There is nothing really special about vite too. It's important, sure, but there is a lot of important open source projects that also need funding. Can all of them pull the same trick?

manniL 1y ago

Keep in mind that this is a super early preview. It will be source-available when stable. And it will be free for the community, while companies will have to pay.

awkwardpotato 1y ago
Source available is not open source. It does not alleviate the concerns raised by OP or it's top child reply Are you affiliated with this project? Based on your comment history, you seem to be

rk06 1y ago

This is not a webdev stack. It is build tools. you do not ship them to your users (like react/vue) but are you used by developers for local build and CI servers for prod build. As for why? some people have very large codebase and prefers their developers to have better UX and are willing to pay for it. lower CI/CD server costs also directly translate to cost savings if you are Replit or stackblitz, You may not like it, and that is ok. as individual developers are already benefitting from vite. and will get rolldown soon.