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The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not che

by GoToRO 1y ago

The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not cheese :)) Imagine my disappointment.

notpushkin 1y ago
So maybe we should tackle the root cause somehow instead?
- Jensson 1y ago
  That is what they are doing here. Its less work for the few people who wanna call it veggie burger to change than for everyone else to change.
  - notpushkin 1y ago
    > [x] will be written with huge letters and then [y] is metioned somewhere in a corner I don’t understand how banning a specific term will address this general case.
tcfhgj 1y ago
this is exaggerated - at least in my region. Example: https://www.ruegenwalder.de/website/produkte/vegan/2491/image-thumb__2491___auto_818f2264c96418864437723eedb23203/4000405003459-vegane-muehlen-crispie-burger-180g.c23863f9.png https://www.ruegenwalder.de/website/produkte/vegan/2491/imag... Vegan cheese packaging: https://verbund.edeka/verbund/presse/eigenmarken-portal/my-veggie/edeka-my-veggie_pflanzliche-scheiben-gouda-geschmack_j.jpg?impolicy=product-image&imwidth=800&imdensity=1 https://verbund.edeka/verbund/presse/eigenmarken-portal/my-v... https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/sites/default/files/styles/article_full_image_desktop/public/2021-09/marktcheck-foto.jpg?h=5daca938&itok=aVgqq1wi https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/sites/default/file... Plus, usually dedicated/labelled sections and optical separation in the supermarket: https://www.deutschlandistvegan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/11745872_873192029417699_8008050999004895433_n.jpg https://www.deutschlandistvegan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/0... https://preview.redd.it/k%C3%B6nnen-wir-das-vegane-angebot-von-lidl-spanien-bitte-auch-v0-ivr9rn82bdp81.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=017f6e24e3bc1ea520c356074fb6086633c1231f https://preview.redd.it/k%C3%B6nnen-wir-das-vegane-angebot-v...
- cheschire 1y ago
  In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. Granted, it is rather obvious in Germany as you said because those foods are most typically purchased from a section dedicated to them and not mixed with others. But the point I’m making is that even your example image was not clear.
  - tcfhgj 1y ago
    > In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. but obviously not chicken augmented with soy
    - cheschire 1y ago
      Only obvious based on context and prior knowledge. But there are a lot of folks without that knowledge.
      - tcfhgj 1y ago
        what knowledge and context do you miss specifically on the packaging?
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FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago
Well, guess you learned a valuable lesson: always read packaging because corporations will go to any length to deceive you.
- Jensson 1y ago
  Or just make it illegal, that is less work overall.

by GoToRO 1y ago

The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not cheese :)) Imagine my disappointment.

notpushkin 1y ago

So maybe we should tackle the root cause somehow instead?

Jensson 1y ago
That is what they are doing here. Its less work for the few people who wanna call it veggie burger to change than for everyone else to change.
- notpushkin 1y ago
  > [x] will be written with huge letters and then [y] is metioned somewhere in a corner I don’t understand how banning a specific term will address this general case.

tcfhgj 1y ago

this is exaggerated - at least in my region. Example: https://www.ruegenwalder.de/website/produkte/vegan/2491/image-thumb__2491___auto_818f2264c96418864437723eedb23203/4000405003459-vegane-muehlen-crispie-burger-180g.c23863f9.png https://www.ruegenwalder.de/website/produkte/vegan/2491/imag... Vegan cheese packaging: https://verbund.edeka/verbund/presse/eigenmarken-portal/my-veggie/edeka-my-veggie_pflanzliche-scheiben-gouda-geschmack_j.jpg?impolicy=product-image&imwidth=800&imdensity=1 https://verbund.edeka/verbund/presse/eigenmarken-portal/my-v... https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/sites/default/files/styles/article_full_image_desktop/public/2021-09/marktcheck-foto.jpg?h=5daca938&itok=aVgqq1wi https://www.verbraucherzentrale-bremen.de/sites/default/file... Plus, usually dedicated/labelled sections and optical separation in the supermarket: https://www.deutschlandistvegan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/11745872_873192029417699_8008050999004895433_n.jpg https://www.deutschlandistvegan.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/0... https://preview.redd.it/k%C3%B6nnen-wir-das-vegane-angebot-von-lidl-spanien-bitte-auch-v0-ivr9rn82bdp81.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=017f6e24e3bc1ea520c356074fb6086633c1231f https://preview.redd.it/k%C3%B6nnen-wir-das-vegane-angebot-v...

cheschire 1y ago
In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. Granted, it is rather obvious in Germany as you said because those foods are most typically purchased from a section dedicated to them and not mixed with others. But the point I’m making is that even your example image was not clear.
- tcfhgj 1y ago
  > In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. but obviously not chicken augmented with soy
  - cheschire 1y ago
    Only obvious based on context and prior knowledge. But there are a lot of folks without that knowledge.
    - tcfhgj 1y ago
      what knowledge and context do you miss specifically on the packaging?

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FranzFerdiNaN 1y ago

Well, guess you learned a valuable lesson: always read packaging because corporations will go to any length to deceive you.

Jensson 1y ago
Or just make it illegal, that is less work overall.