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It was a MAGA talking point from the start, meant for MAGA ppl... The chance he got it was 0%, because: 1- The Nobel Peace Prize is chosen by a committee of 5

It was a MAGA talking point from the start, meant for MAGA ppl... The chance he got it was 0%, because: 1- The Nobel Peace Prize is chosen by a committee of 5 Norwegians. Having Russia or Israel expressing support doesn't help, it's probably even counterproductive. Random endorsements on Twitter don't matter either.. 2- The committee values international cooperation, not trade wars, isolationism, or cozying up to dictators. 3- They prize the defense of democracy, not attacks on it. 4- The cherry on the cake: Machado got the prize while he's been threatening war with Venezuela itself. It almost feels like a big f*ck off

tomp 1y ago
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- henrikschroder 1y ago
  Just yesterday the orange one called for the arrest of two state governors. On charges of... uhhh... hm... Because... uhhmm.. he doesn't like them?
- ddddang 1y ago
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xorcist 1y ago
> Having Russia or Israel expressing support doesn't help, Please. At least get the facts right. It was not just Russia and Israel. It was also Cambodia, Azerbaijan, Gabon and Rwanda.
- crossroadsguy 1y ago
  Also, the current military dictator of Pakistan, and maybe it was done as a state sponsorship, not just a personal one.
- chrneu 1y ago
  it's not often Gabon shows up to the party. Lol
NoGravitas 1y ago
Machado is manufacturing consent for Trump's planned invasion, so point 4 is a bit weaker than you might like. Imagine looKing at Iraq and saying "yeah, that's what I want for my country".
onetimeusename 1y ago
Your last comment isn't very consistent. For one thing the US recognizes Edmundo Gonzalez as the rightful president[1]. Machado helped him during the campaign last year. For another, Machado opposes Maduro's regime and she actually dedicated her prize to Trump.[2] [1]: https://www.state.gov/secretary-rubios-call-with-the-rightful-president-of-venezuela-gonzalez-urrutia-and-venezuelan-democratic-opposition-leader-machado https://www.state.gov/secretary-rubios-call-with-the-rightfu... [2]: https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990 https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990
- WinstonSmith84 1y ago
  Yes, she dedicated her prize to Trump, and that's easy to understand. It's a way to flatter his ego so that: 1- He doesn't turn against her or try to undermine her (he certainly would otherwise) 2- He publicly supports her cause. 3- His attention stays on Venezuela .. I really doubt she wants a full-scale US intervention.
- DrScientist 1y ago
  > she actually dedicated her prize to Trump Indeed. Juan Guaidó is yesterdays man. According to the New York Times... " She has expressed support for the use of force to depose the Maduro regime; one of her advisors told the New York Times that she has coordinated with the Trump administration and that she has a plan for the first hundred hours after his deposition" Not sure what democratic mandate she has to be in charge post a foreign led military coup - though she is a graduate of the Yale World Fellows programme. So rather than a big FU it would appear to be more likely to be an attempt to raise her profile to legitimise a US led coup.
  - astrange 1y ago
    Norwegians don't care about legitimizing US coups, and the current US administration is incapable of working with /anyone/ let anyone influencing Norway.
    - DrScientist 1y ago

tomp 1y ago

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henrikschroder 1y ago
Just yesterday the orange one called for the arrest of two state governors. On charges of... uhhh... hm... Because... uhhmm.. he doesn't like them?
ddddang 1y ago
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xorcist 1y ago

> Having Russia or Israel expressing support doesn't help, Please. At least get the facts right. It was not just Russia and Israel. It was also Cambodia, Azerbaijan, Gabon and Rwanda.

crossroadsguy 1y ago
Also, the current military dictator of Pakistan, and maybe it was done as a state sponsorship, not just a personal one.
chrneu 1y ago
it's not often Gabon shows up to the party. Lol

NoGravitas 1y ago

Machado is manufacturing consent for Trump's planned invasion, so point 4 is a bit weaker than you might like. Imagine looKing at Iraq and saying "yeah, that's what I want for my country".

onetimeusename 1y ago

Your last comment isn't very consistent. For one thing the US recognizes Edmundo Gonzalez as the rightful president[1]. Machado helped him during the campaign last year. For another, Machado opposes Maduro's regime and she actually dedicated her prize to Trump.[2] [1]: https://www.state.gov/secretary-rubios-call-with-the-rightful-president-of-venezuela-gonzalez-urrutia-and-venezuelan-democratic-opposition-leader-machado https://www.state.gov/secretary-rubios-call-with-the-rightfu... [2]: https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990 https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990

WinstonSmith84 1y ago
Yes, she dedicated her prize to Trump, and that's easy to understand. It's a way to flatter his ego so that: 1- He doesn't turn against her or try to undermine her (he certainly would otherwise) 2- He publicly supports her cause. 3- His attention stays on Venezuela .. I really doubt she wants a full-scale US intervention.
DrScientist 1y ago
> she actually dedicated her prize to Trump Indeed. Juan Guaidó is yesterdays man. According to the New York Times... " She has expressed support for the use of force to depose the Maduro regime; one of her advisors told the New York Times that she has coordinated with the Trump administration and that she has a plan for the first hundred hours after his deposition" Not sure what democratic mandate she has to be in charge post a foreign led military coup - though she is a graduate of the Yale World Fellows programme. So rather than a big FU it would appear to be more likely to be an attempt to raise her profile to legitimise a US led coup.
- astrange 1y ago
  Norwegians don't care about legitimizing US coups, and the current US administration is incapable of working with /anyone/ let anyone influencing Norway.
  - DrScientist 1y ago