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How will a tank that you can't get to the battlefield help? That truly is not a joke or exaggeration. They are above the weight limit of many bridges, without a

How will a tank that you can't get to the battlefield help? That truly is not a joke or exaggeration. They are above the weight limit of many bridges, without any other vehicles on the bridge. They are just that heavy.

kulahan 1y ago
C5s can also transport them easily. I... don't know if C17s can, but I assume not? Maybe though. If so, they're not a problem at all, if you really want 'em. But also remember tanks are tanks - they're meant to drive over all kinds of nonsense. It might be something of a technical roadblock if there's an impassable ravine, but there are still many, many instances where they'll be useful. IMO we'll see them fall out of favor heavily if we start doing more mountainous island warfare. Edit: I was curious so I looked it up, and there are a number of options: 1. Shore up/reinforce the bridge you want to cross with temporary structures 2. Just fill the damn terrain if it's a narrow ravine 3. Build a quick ferry 4. There are apparently literal armored vehicle-launched bridges (AVLBs)
- nitwit005 1y ago
  During the cold war, American taxpayers ended up paying for bridges to be rebuilt in Europe so that theheavy tanks could defend against a Russian invasion. Now that the border is further East, they're busy rebuilding more bridges (not US paid this time): https://united24media.com/latest-news/maybe-this-europe-to-redraw-military-map-with-20b-plan-to-rush-tanks-east-in-hours-not-weeks-10251 https://united24media.com/latest-news/maybe-this-europe-to-r... They do not believe the tanks will be able to get there in time without doing that. But that only gets you mobility in allied nations willing to spend billions on infrastructure.
  - kulahan 1y ago
    You may have responded before seeing the rest of my comment edit - there are many methods for crossing some bridged area. Either way, we can always just... scout a route ahead of time which doesn't take us straight to a dead-end. We probably already do this with satellites in a matter of minutes or hours nowadays.
    - nitwit005 1y ago
      Well, I think you should tell them they don't need to spend tens of billions. They're apparently very confused.
      - kulahan 1y ago
        It's... obviously better to just trust the roads are good to go, but you can never trust that in enemy territory. Even if the bridge is "sufficiently strong", you don't know if it was booby-trapped by the enemy.

kulahan 1y ago

C5s can also transport them easily. I... don't know if C17s can, but I assume not? Maybe though. If so, they're not a problem at all, if you really want 'em. But also remember tanks are tanks - they're meant to drive over all kinds of nonsense. It might be something of a technical roadblock if there's an impassable ravine, but there are still many, many instances where they'll be useful. IMO we'll see them fall out of favor heavily if we start doing more mountainous island warfare. Edit: I was curious so I looked it up, and there are a number of options: 1. Shore up/reinforce the bridge you want to cross with temporary structures 2. Just fill the damn terrain if it's a narrow ravine 3. Build a quick ferry 4. There are apparently literal armored vehicle-launched bridges (AVLBs)

nitwit005 1y ago
During the cold war, American taxpayers ended up paying for bridges to be rebuilt in Europe so that theheavy tanks could defend against a Russian invasion. Now that the border is further East, they're busy rebuilding more bridges (not US paid this time): https://united24media.com/latest-news/maybe-this-europe-to-redraw-military-map-with-20b-plan-to-rush-tanks-east-in-hours-not-weeks-10251 https://united24media.com/latest-news/maybe-this-europe-to-r... They do not believe the tanks will be able to get there in time without doing that. But that only gets you mobility in allied nations willing to spend billions on infrastructure.
- kulahan 1y ago
  You may have responded before seeing the rest of my comment edit - there are many methods for crossing some bridged area. Either way, we can always just... scout a route ahead of time which doesn't take us straight to a dead-end. We probably already do this with satellites in a matter of minutes or hours nowadays.
  - nitwit005 1y ago
    Well, I think you should tell them they don't need to spend tens of billions. They're apparently very confused.
    - kulahan 1y ago
      It's... obviously better to just trust the roads are good to go, but you can never trust that in enemy territory. Even if the bridge is "sufficiently strong", you don't know if it was booby-trapped by the enemy.