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by mhb 1y ago

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danielodievich 1y ago
And then rational thinking entities are forced to build temples in honor of that entity? I mean data centers of course...
- inopinatus 1y ago
  It all becomes worthwhile when some genius paints a masterpiece on the ceiling of your machine room.
imchillyb 1y ago
Seems like good instructions. Do not steal. Do not murder. Do not commit adultery. Do not covet, but feed the hungry and give a drink to the thirsty. Be good. Love others. Looks like optimal code to me.
- WJW 1y ago
  Somehow it interfered with legacy code governing determination of in and out (C-)groups and led to multiple crusades and other various mass killings along the way. Optimal code in isolation, not so perfect in a wider system.
  - inopinatus 1y ago
    There is a known bug in production due to faulty wetware operated by some customers.
    - miningape 1y ago
      Nah it's a feature, you're just not using it properly
- duncancarroll 1y ago
  > invisible, omnipotent and omniscient being intimately involved in their day to day activities The statement above is independent of the (laudable) morality & ethics you're describing.
- mhb 1y ago
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- cap11235 1y ago
  Do not mix wool and and cotton
- gnatman 1y ago
  Whenever people argue for the general usefulness of the 10 commandments they never seem to mention the first 4 or 5.
  - apostata 1y ago
    Because they're as useful as a pedal-powered wheelchair. We say what's "good" in the good book.
Aperocky 1y ago
It's actually reassuring, because it fundamentally demonstrated that these are not rational thinking machine, but rather extremely large statistic models trained to pattern match. Now, I can't guarantee that we are that significantly different. Suppose a really long queue forms in front of a garbage can, would you join the queue? LLMs would.
CjHuber 1y ago
Imagine someone contaminated their training data into believing they are rational thinking machines
tomhow 1y ago
Please don't do this here. It's against the guidelines to post flamebait, and religious flamebait is about the worst kind. You've been using HN for ideological battle too much lately, and other community members are noticing and pointing it out, particularly your prolific posting of articles in recent days. This is not what HN is for and it destroys what it is for. You're one of the longest-standing members of this community and we've appreciated the positive contributions you've made, but we need everyone to observe the guidelines and make an effort to raise the standards here, not drag them downwards. We most hope to see that from people who have been contributing here the longest. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mhb 1y ago
  I recognize that policing this venue is not easy and take no pleasure in making it more difficult. Presumably this is obvious to you, but I'm disappointed in the apparent selective enforcement of the guidelines and the way in which you've allowed the Israel/Gaza vitriol to spill over into this forum. There are many larger and more significant injustices happening in the world and if it is important for Israel/Gaza to be discussed here, why are these other ones the victims of concern fatigue? The point is often made by commenters that the forum is too Western-centric for their liking. Your justification for allowing the Israel/Gaza discussion referred to it being of interest to a Western audience. Maybe that's a bug and not a feature and the reason Gaza is front of mind for this community is that there is insufficient exposure to the difficulties of the wider world. This particular comment was, I thought, unrelated to the issue of politics insinuating itself here and represented a reasonable observation in the context of the original post.
  - danielodievich 1y ago
    Personally, I thought that comment was a nicely sarcastic observation on the nature of humanity. Also quite nicely echoing the sentiments in The Culture books by Ian M. Banks.
  - plumb_bob_00 1y ago
    I don't think it has anything to do with Gaza discourse or concern fatigue. Religion is totally tangential to the article, and religious flamebait doubly so. When you wrote your comment surely you realized it was reductive and insulting? A caricature of religious people? If that wasn't the intention then I don't understand what was.

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by mhb 1y ago

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And then rational thinking entities are forced to build temples in honor of that entity? I mean data centers of course...

inopinatus 1y ago
It all becomes worthwhile when some genius paints a masterpiece on the ceiling of your machine room.

imchillyb 1y ago

Seems like good instructions. Do not steal. Do not murder. Do not commit adultery. Do not covet, but feed the hungry and give a drink to the thirsty. Be good. Love others. Looks like optimal code to me.

WJW 1y ago
Somehow it interfered with legacy code governing determination of in and out (C-)groups and led to multiple crusades and other various mass killings along the way. Optimal code in isolation, not so perfect in a wider system.
- inopinatus 1y ago
  There is a known bug in production due to faulty wetware operated by some customers.
  - miningape 1y ago
    Nah it's a feature, you're just not using it properly
duncancarroll 1y ago
> invisible, omnipotent and omniscient being intimately involved in their day to day activities The statement above is independent of the (laudable) morality & ethics you're describing.
mhb 1y ago
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cap11235 1y ago
Do not mix wool and and cotton
gnatman 1y ago
Whenever people argue for the general usefulness of the 10 commandments they never seem to mention the first 4 or 5.
- apostata 1y ago
  Because they're as useful as a pedal-powered wheelchair. We say what's "good" in the good book.

Aperocky 1y ago

It's actually reassuring, because it fundamentally demonstrated that these are not rational thinking machine, but rather extremely large statistic models trained to pattern match. Now, I can't guarantee that we are that significantly different. Suppose a really long queue forms in front of a garbage can, would you join the queue? LLMs would.

CjHuber 1y ago

Imagine someone contaminated their training data into believing they are rational thinking machines

tomhow 1y ago

Please don't do this here. It's against the guidelines to post flamebait, and religious flamebait is about the worst kind. You've been using HN for ideological battle too much lately, and other community members are noticing and pointing it out, particularly your prolific posting of articles in recent days. This is not what HN is for and it destroys what it is for. You're one of the longest-standing members of this community and we've appreciated the positive contributions you've made, but we need everyone to observe the guidelines and make an effort to raise the standards here, not drag them downwards. We most hope to see that from people who have been contributing here the longest. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mhb 1y ago
I recognize that policing this venue is not easy and take no pleasure in making it more difficult. Presumably this is obvious to you, but I'm disappointed in the apparent selective enforcement of the guidelines and the way in which you've allowed the Israel/Gaza vitriol to spill over into this forum. There are many larger and more significant injustices happening in the world and if it is important for Israel/Gaza to be discussed here, why are these other ones the victims of concern fatigue? The point is often made by commenters that the forum is too Western-centric for their liking. Your justification for allowing the Israel/Gaza discussion referred to it being of interest to a Western audience. Maybe that's a bug and not a feature and the reason Gaza is front of mind for this community is that there is insufficient exposure to the difficulties of the wider world. This particular comment was, I thought, unrelated to the issue of politics insinuating itself here and represented a reasonable observation in the context of the original post.
- danielodievich 1y ago
  Personally, I thought that comment was a nicely sarcastic observation on the nature of humanity. Also quite nicely echoing the sentiments in The Culture books by Ian M. Banks.
- plumb_bob_00 1y ago
  I don't think it has anything to do with Gaza discourse or concern fatigue. Religion is totally tangential to the article, and religious flamebait doubly so. When you wrote your comment surely you realized it was reductive and insulting? A caricature of religious people? If that wasn't the intention then I don't understand what was.