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Could it be that sharing conservative ideas is against Reddit's community guidelines? There are other subreddits with primarily right or moderate leaning commu

Could it be that sharing conservative ideas is against Reddit's community guidelines? There are other subreddits with primarily right or moderate leaning communities and comments in those get deleted all the time with moderator messages saying they risk the entire subreddit getting taken down by Reddit simply for sharing basic conservative views.

square_usual 1y ago
I'm sure you can give us examples of these "basic conservative values" that gets entire subreddits banned off a platform run by a libertarian prepper who admires Elon Musk.
stickfigure 1y ago
This is not credible without evidence.
- DiggyJohnson 1y ago
  I can testify this is credible. You can prove this by trying it out yourself.
  - jibal 1y ago
    Your testimony isn't credible. You have made plainly false statements here.
    - DiggyJohnson 1y ago
      What on Earth?
- observationist 1y ago
  The evidence gets deleted. Go talk with any of the mods or former mods for right of center-left discussion forums - any deviation or disagreement with far left narratives is asking for conflict. Anything that risks brigading or attention by one of the larger leftist subs will get nuked because those smaller communities can't expend the hours needed to deal with the flood of hate and harassment they get. If you find that not credible, you haven't been paying attention - reddit is a leftist cesspit echo chamber, and the only way any dissenting viewpoints survive is through having an absurd level of micromanaging and moderator involvement, like r/conservative, or being so small as to fly under the radar and not attract notice. Centralizing forums to reddit was one of the worst things to ever happen to the internet, in retrospect. We should have stayed diverse and decentralized, and leaned into federation style community links, and made it easier for people to navigate and surface interesting unique communities, independent of the arbitrary politicization and ideological nonsense that infects reddit.
  - array_key_first 1y ago
    Commenting conservative things is not against community guidelines. However, most conservative comments are against community guidelines. For example, supporting Trump is fine. Repeating what Trump says might be against community guidelines. Not because being a trump supporter is against the rules, but because trump sometimes says blatantly racist things, and that IS against the rules. It's simple to be both conservative and not rude, nasty, racist, sexist, etc. Many influential conservative voices struggle with this. So they get banned, and, by value of following their lead, their followers. Another example, on a bigger scale. Trump can be upset about losing an election. That's allowed. But Trump cannot advocate people go cause violence because of it. That's not allowed, and we had days in court because of that.
    - vkou 1y ago
      > Repeating what Trump says might be against community guidelines. For the irony-cherry on top, repeating what he says is also often against r/conservative guidelines - they'll happily ban you for it, because a lot of the things Trump says are also really fucking stupid and contradictory, and his supporters don't like to be reminded that the emperor's naked.
    - ryandrake 1y ago
      Exactly. The sibling replier[1] summed it up. Nobody is getting their accounts nuked for mere "conservative views." They're getting their accounts nuked for heinous views that are against Reddit's rules, whether related to politics or not. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45530566 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45530566
    - mlrtime 1y ago
      [flagged]
abustamam 1y ago
Out of curiosity, what views? I'm trying to understand if Reddit is just ban happy against conservatives or if basic conservative views are really against reddits TOS
- DiggyJohnson 1y ago
  Trans related topics are expressly against TOC and enforced unless a subreddit is ruthless in removing any comments that aren't expressly positive and affirming. There is no room for nuance on this topic. Just giving an example.
  - alittlebee 1y ago
    As a trans person, I find it interesting that so many people have opinions on an illness that truly sucks. It’s rough reading every day that you are “wrong” about something you suffer from. I wish folks could see the losses we experience when we transition. I think if they did, they might extend a little more grace and compassion. (That said, I do agree with you on nuance)
    - cestith 1y ago
      Nuance is not a popular thing in the US in recent decades. The false dichotomy appears to be more than our collective favorite logical fallacy, but some people’s favorite avocation.
      - abustamam 1y ago
        I blame the media, as well as people. People's "news" have been reduced to headlines or 30 second clips on tiktok/insta. Of course they won't convey nuance. And of course content creators / news aggregators know this so they purposely strip all nuance out of their reporting.
        nerdponx 1y ago
        Nuance is the enemy when you are trying to run a propaganda campaign and push an agenda. Blaming the American people is victim blaming.
DengistKhan 1y ago
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johnnyanmac 1y ago
>Could it be that sharing conservative ideas is against Reddit's community guidelines? Sharing conservative ideas is not against reddit's community guidelines. the sitewide guidelines are pretty simple, actually: https://redditinc.com/policies/reddit-rules https://redditinc.com/policies/reddit-rules to summarize: 1. don't harrass people on or off-site, nor promote hate 2. no spam or content manipulation 3. no doxxing nor non-consential sexual material 4. no CSAM or CSAM-adjacent material 5. don't impoersonae others 6. label NSFW content 7. no illegal content 8. don't break reddit on purpose other conservative subs have historically had issues with rules #2 and #8, so I'm sure Reddit is more sensitive to that. In addition, current conservative leaning subs do tend to have more issues with rule 1, even to this day. I imagine what you are seeing are content being pre-emptively removed to prevent potential harassment that can get the sub banned.
- mlrtime 1y ago
  To the average reddit, simply being conservative or voting for trump is promoting hate. I guarantee you 100% they think this. Take a /r/all post that is anti trump and read the comments about republicans, they hate them.
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    Perhaps. But admins won't ban a sub for being conservative or voting for Trump alone. Admins are the ones who can ban subs, not mods. Mods from there have absolute power, as long as they follow the above guidelines. As we know, the rules can be as petty as they want. Their only limit is that they can't ban someone who's never participated in a sub (so they can't pre-rmotively ban someone for existing)
    - mlrtime 1y ago
      /r/TheRealDonald was banned by admins. Mods bots do ban you for participating in other subs. I was banned from a handful for posting in /r/JoeRogan

square_usual 1y ago

I'm sure you can give us examples of these "basic conservative values" that gets entire subreddits banned off a platform run by a libertarian prepper who admires Elon Musk.

stickfigure 1y ago

This is not credible without evidence.

DiggyJohnson 1y ago
I can testify this is credible. You can prove this by trying it out yourself.
- jibal 1y ago
  Your testimony isn't credible. You have made plainly false statements here.
  - DiggyJohnson 1y ago
    What on Earth?
observationist 1y ago
The evidence gets deleted. Go talk with any of the mods or former mods for right of center-left discussion forums - any deviation or disagreement with far left narratives is asking for conflict. Anything that risks brigading or attention by one of the larger leftist subs will get nuked because those smaller communities can't expend the hours needed to deal with the flood of hate and harassment they get. If you find that not credible, you haven't been paying attention - reddit is a leftist cesspit echo chamber, and the only way any dissenting viewpoints survive is through having an absurd level of micromanaging and moderator involvement, like r/conservative, or being so small as to fly under the radar and not attract notice. Centralizing forums to reddit was one of the worst things to ever happen to the internet, in retrospect. We should have stayed diverse and decentralized, and leaned into federation style community links, and made it easier for people to navigate and surface interesting unique communities, independent of the arbitrary politicization and ideological nonsense that infects reddit.
- array_key_first 1y ago
  Commenting conservative things is not against community guidelines. However, most conservative comments are against community guidelines. For example, supporting Trump is fine. Repeating what Trump says might be against community guidelines. Not because being a trump supporter is against the rules, but because trump sometimes says blatantly racist things, and that IS against the rules. It's simple to be both conservative and not rude, nasty, racist, sexist, etc. Many influential conservative voices struggle with this. So they get banned, and, by value of following their lead, their followers. Another example, on a bigger scale. Trump can be upset about losing an election. That's allowed. But Trump cannot advocate people go cause violence because of it. That's not allowed, and we had days in court because of that.
  - vkou 1y ago
    > Repeating what Trump says might be against community guidelines. For the irony-cherry on top, repeating what he says is also often against r/conservative guidelines - they'll happily ban you for it, because a lot of the things Trump says are also really fucking stupid and contradictory, and his supporters don't like to be reminded that the emperor's naked.
  - ryandrake 1y ago
    Exactly. The sibling replier[1] summed it up. Nobody is getting their accounts nuked for mere "conservative views." They're getting their accounts nuked for heinous views that are against Reddit's rules, whether related to politics or not. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45530566 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45530566
  - mlrtime 1y ago
    [flagged]

abustamam 1y ago

Out of curiosity, what views? I'm trying to understand if Reddit is just ban happy against conservatives or if basic conservative views are really against reddits TOS

DiggyJohnson 1y ago
Trans related topics are expressly against TOC and enforced unless a subreddit is ruthless in removing any comments that aren't expressly positive and affirming. There is no room for nuance on this topic. Just giving an example.
- alittlebee 1y ago
  As a trans person, I find it interesting that so many people have opinions on an illness that truly sucks. It’s rough reading every day that you are “wrong” about something you suffer from. I wish folks could see the losses we experience when we transition. I think if they did, they might extend a little more grace and compassion. (That said, I do agree with you on nuance)
  - cestith 1y ago
    Nuance is not a popular thing in the US in recent decades. The false dichotomy appears to be more than our collective favorite logical fallacy, but some people’s favorite avocation.
    - abustamam 1y ago
      I blame the media, as well as people. People's "news" have been reduced to headlines or 30 second clips on tiktok/insta. Of course they won't convey nuance. And of course content creators / news aggregators know this so they purposely strip all nuance out of their reporting.
      - nerdponx 1y ago
        Nuance is the enemy when you are trying to run a propaganda campaign and push an agenda. Blaming the American people is victim blaming.

DengistKhan 1y ago

https://i.redd.it/cw47uodbkhh61.jpg https://i.redd.it/cw47uodbkhh61.jpg

johnnyanmac 1y ago

>Could it be that sharing conservative ideas is against Reddit's community guidelines? Sharing conservative ideas is not against reddit's community guidelines. the sitewide guidelines are pretty simple, actually: https://redditinc.com/policies/reddit-rules https://redditinc.com/policies/reddit-rules to summarize: 1. don't harrass people on or off-site, nor promote hate 2. no spam or content manipulation 3. no doxxing nor non-consential sexual material 4. no CSAM or CSAM-adjacent material 5. don't impoersonae others 6. label NSFW content 7. no illegal content 8. don't break reddit on purpose other conservative subs have historically had issues with rules #2 and #8, so I'm sure Reddit is more sensitive to that. In addition, current conservative leaning subs do tend to have more issues with rule 1, even to this day. I imagine what you are seeing are content being pre-emptively removed to prevent potential harassment that can get the sub banned.

mlrtime 1y ago
To the average reddit, simply being conservative or voting for trump is promoting hate. I guarantee you 100% they think this. Take a /r/all post that is anti trump and read the comments about republicans, they hate them.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  Perhaps. But admins won't ban a sub for being conservative or voting for Trump alone. Admins are the ones who can ban subs, not mods. Mods from there have absolute power, as long as they follow the above guidelines. As we know, the rules can be as petty as they want. Their only limit is that they can't ban someone who's never participated in a sub (so they can't pre-rmotively ban someone for existing)
  - mlrtime 1y ago
    /r/TheRealDonald was banned by admins. Mods bots do ban you for participating in other subs. I was banned from a handful for posting in /r/JoeRogan