4 ms·

Oh yeah, I've had one of those several years ago. It was a Bahn25 and I got a new one in 2 months and got sent a bill for it. Then, I called them because I coul

Oh yeah, I've had one of those several years ago. It was a Bahn25 and I got a new one in 2 months and got sent a bill for it. Then, I called them because I couldn't cancel and I tried to tell them about this. At least at that time, the customer support knew about this sneaky practice, and would, on request, allow you to cancel it manually. I did get a debt collectors post about my unpaid bill and I had to send around emails to them as well that I was pardoned and I didn't use the card at all. I don't remember if I got a confirmation about it and that's why I still have it on my records. After like 7 (8?) years, who knows when they would go under and then come up to me that I owe them like half a million in unpaid debt.

sva_ 1y ago
I think after 3 years it is "verjährt."
- etyhhgfff 1y ago
  But your credit ranking like "Schufa" might still be affected.
sixtyj 1y ago
Every cent counts. What is wrong is that this behaviour is being perpetrated by an organisation that one would not expect to see it. Edit: Every 500 euros count… “ Today is about dark patterns that cost me 500€ for nothing.”
- mr_mitm 1y ago
  When they owe you money, they refuse to pay up if it's less than 4€: https://preview.redd.it/danke-db-es-geht-mir-nicht-um-die-3-35-sondern-ums-prinzip-v0-8a7odc6o58n91.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c4991905ade128691c1070ff9216d4f7961e2345 https://preview.redd.it/danke-db-es-geht-mir-nicht-um-die-3-... However, if I try to explain to them I cannot purchase tickets costing less than 4€ for reasons I simply keep to myself like they do, they hit me with a 60€ fee.
  - sixtyj 1y ago
    Every 3.99€ counts… It sucks. Last time I had similar dispute with IRS :)
  - thesimon 1y ago
    Can complain to your local MEP about that. They updated the passenger rights regulation recently, but still kept this/ Regulation (EU) 2021/782 > Railway undertakings may introduce a minimum threshold under which payments for compensation will not be paid. This threshold shall not exceed EUR 4 per ticket. Sadly the MEPs cared more about railway companies than passengers.

sva_ 1y ago

I think after 3 years it is "verjährt."

etyhhgfff 1y ago
But your credit ranking like "Schufa" might still be affected.

sixtyj 1y ago

Every cent counts. What is wrong is that this behaviour is being perpetrated by an organisation that one would not expect to see it. Edit: Every 500 euros count… “ Today is about dark patterns that cost me 500€ for nothing.”

mr_mitm 1y ago
When they owe you money, they refuse to pay up if it's less than 4€: https://preview.redd.it/danke-db-es-geht-mir-nicht-um-die-3-35-sondern-ums-prinzip-v0-8a7odc6o58n91.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c4991905ade128691c1070ff9216d4f7961e2345 https://preview.redd.it/danke-db-es-geht-mir-nicht-um-die-3-... However, if I try to explain to them I cannot purchase tickets costing less than 4€ for reasons I simply keep to myself like they do, they hit me with a 60€ fee.
- sixtyj 1y ago
  Every 3.99€ counts… It sucks. Last time I had similar dispute with IRS :)
- thesimon 1y ago
  Can complain to your local MEP about that. They updated the passenger rights regulation recently, but still kept this/ Regulation (EU) 2021/782 > Railway undertakings may introduce a minimum threshold under which payments for compensation will not be paid. This threshold shall not exceed EUR 4 per ticket. Sadly the MEPs cared more about railway companies than passengers.