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Oh man... Technology has always been a refuge from politics for me. I know this is a childish view of the world, but still... Today the nerdiest of things are s
by freetonik 1y ago
Oh man... Technology has always been a refuge from politics for me. I know this is a childish view of the world, but still... Today the nerdiest of things are still filled with politics. Rust, nix, open source hardware... there is nowhere to "hide".
- bo0tzz 1y agoEverything is political, especially something like the open source world (explicitly). Trying to hide from politics is just naivety and gives space to bad actors.
- freetonik 1y agoI know. Though I wish those popular, influential tech people would be less interested in politics, and less vocal about it. I wish I could afford to not care about any of it.
- vovavili 1y agoThis kind of attitude comes hand-to-hand with performative virtue signalling. Minimizing the extent of political involvement makes any hobby or interest infinitely more enjoyable and less toxic, and I find it regrettable that people are less able to engage in communities centered around technology without flaunting their political tribal allegiances.
- bo0tzz 1y agoI agree that if people were able to keep their hate out of these spaces they would be much more pleasant for people to engage in.
- nathanaldensr 1y agoThat's not what either parent said, which you're well aware of. What you call "hate" others call "opinions" or is just completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Not everyone needs to care about what you care about in the same way. We're allowed to have differences and we're allowed to not care about those differences in some contexts in life.
- bo0tzz 1y agoI'm not opposed to people having different opinions. What I am opposed to is people making a space actively hostile to others and hiding behind their "freedom of opinion".
- jauntywundrkind 1y agoI enjoy when people show social conscious & tie it to their work. Trying to work within the framework of the world & communicating your aspirations & hopes is great. > Minimizing the extent of political involvement makes any hobby or interest infinitely more enjoyable and less toxic, Citation needed. Why? I don't feel this at all. It's great to see virtue sang forth, imo.
- znpy 1y ago> Everything is political Nah, everything has been made political. And that's a big issue.
- fsflover 1y agoFree software (that some people call "open-source") is exactly about your freedoms, i.e., it's inherently political.
- atmavatar 1y agoI regret to inform you that one of the largest contributors to the sheer magnitude of the Holocaust was a set of mainframe machines purchased from and continually maintained by IBM. Technology is a force multiplier just like weapons are, and as such, it can never be extracted from politics. It can, however, be really difficult to be aware of all the dirty laundry companies have, and cross-company deals like TFA deals with only make that harder. I definitely have a lot of sympathy for those who (admittedly like myself) don't spend their time investigating what every company in their life does behind the curtain. Even once you know a particular company does something shady, it can be difficult (if not impossible) to find alternatives due to the massive consolidation of markets we've seen in past decades. Or, just as bad - you do have several options, but all of them engage in bad behavior, such that there's still not an obviously good option. Normally, I'd expect governments to tamp down on this, but, well, even many western countries' governments are bribed to the gills explicitly not to, and I don't see that getting any better in my lifetime.
- grimblee 1y agoPolitics is just the term to design how groups of people function, so as long as you will interact with other people in any way, you will do politics. Everything is political. The way you dress, where you work, who are your friends, what you buy. Especially what you buy, maybe most of all in this society.