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Biscuits and crisps are generally considered to be ultra processed foods, despite containing only basic ingredients.
by woadwarrior01 1y ago
Biscuits and crisps are generally considered to be ultra processed foods, despite containing only basic ingredients.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Biscuits and crisps are generally considered to be ultra processed foods, despite containing only basic ingredients Depends on if they’re ultra processed or not. If they won’t stale for weeks, they’re ultra processed with preservatives and/or solvents. If they go stale and have a simple ingredients list, they probably aren’t. (And kids don’t need to be habituated to having either with every lunch.)
- fingerlocks 1y agoSalt is a preservative, vinegar is a solvent. Individually or combined they can prevent spoilage indefinitely. So no, it’s a lot more arbitrary than that.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Salt is a preservative, vinegar is a solvent. Sure. But they’re commonly in kitchens and simply produced, making their status as Group 1 and 2 Nova foods unambiguous.
- otikik 1y agoWell that is because there's two very different things, both called "cookies". When a grandma bakes some cookies for their grandchildren she uses only some basic ingredients - eggs, flour, butter, sugar. For the product that food industries calls as cookies however, the list of ingredients looks like a git SHA.
- gusgus01 1y agoMan, you're missing a bunch of ingredients to actually make tasty cookies. Definitely need some salt. She's probably also using vanilla extract or purchased chocolate chips (or chunks) or cinnamon. Plus the leavening agent, so baking powder (or baking soda and another acid). That's all just for the basic cookies, there's so many options out there using stuff like malted chocolate powder, and that's ignoring making palatable gluten-free cookies.
- otikik 1y agoIt was just an example of the kinds of ingredients, not a complete list. Granma is not going to add Potassium bromate, for example.
- gusgus01 1y agoYeah, but the point is adding salt raises the "Classification" to processed. Using store bought chocolate chips raises it to ultra processed because it contains ultra processed ingredients.
- bevesce- 1y agoIs there any evidence that those are any healthier? If I'm going to overeat the same amount of calories eating store-bought cookies or grandma-made cookies - is my health outcome any different?
- throwawaymb 1y agoAbsolutely. calories dont tell you much.
- bevesce- 1y agoSo what's the evidence? I couldn't find anything. What do they not tell? I assume that macros in homemade and bought cookies are roughly the same.
- otikik 1y agoDepends on where you are. There's food additives that are used in the US that are forbidden in Europe [1] > The E.U. says that if they can’t dismiss the possibility of harm, they can’t find an additive safe,” Galligan says. In the U.S., the bar is much lower; companies can add new ingredients to their foods without even informing the FDA. “In the U.S., it feels like the FDA is waiting to act until harm is definitely proven,” says Galligan. [1] https://time.com/7210717/food-additives-us-fda-banned-europe/ https://time.com/7210717/food-additives-us-fda-banned-europe...
- lithocarpus 1y agoYes. Look into the process used to make soybean oil vs the process used to make butter.
- bevesce- 1y agoI'm not sure how is that relevant. My guess would be that saturated fat in butter is worse for health outcome.
- lithocarpus 1y ago
- lithocarpus 1y agoSoybean or canola oil is not a basic ingredient.