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If it was just on most efficient, this would be a very different forum. I think the primary thread of discussion is to talk about what we love and what drives u

by yan 18y ago

If it was just on most efficient, this would be a very different forum. I think the primary thread of discussion is to talk about what we love and what drives us, treating financial gain as a side-effect.

yters 18y ago
I see zero posts about becoming financially free. I see many posts about startups, the stock market, and getting burnt out by programming jobs that control what people think and do. Try posting something about being depressed here, and see how many upvotes it gets. Or, look at my submission history. This does not look like the posting pattern of people who are satisfied with their freedom. Here's a recent example: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=454316 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=454316 Do people here sound satisfied with their work, and merely talking about their diverse interests? Or does the allure of the startup draw them?
- yan 18y ago
  I don't think I have a firm grasp on what you're asking. Why is there more complaining than praise? That's just human nature. Also, paying attention to the bad is more productive than to the good. People are always looking to improve. Why the seeming disconnect between doing things you love and start ups? A start up, with its associated (hopeful) monetary stream not only lets you work on what you love, it also frees up time from doing what you have to in order to stay financially afloat. So, just having interesting hobbies is very sub-optimal.
  - yters 18y ago
    It is your last point I am getting at. You seem to agree that the reason people are interested in startups is for freedom. Specifically financial freedom, meaning freedom to devote work to things other than the financial bottom line for living. So, what I am saying is that since we want freedom, we need to think about the best ways for becoming free. Everyone assumes best = startups, but no one has really discussed the issue to see if this is right. Startups are notoriously undependable vessels of financial freedom, so that doesn't make sense to me. Why accept the status quo? I'll put together a plan in a month or so and post it, hopefully generate more discussion.

by yan 18y ago

yters 18y ago

I see zero posts about becoming financially free. I see many posts about startups, the stock market, and getting burnt out by programming jobs that control what people think and do. Try posting something about being depressed here, and see how many upvotes it gets. Or, look at my submission history. This does not look like the posting pattern of people who are satisfied with their freedom. Here's a recent example: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=454316 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=454316 Do people here sound satisfied with their work, and merely talking about their diverse interests? Or does the allure of the startup draw them?

yan 18y ago
I don't think I have a firm grasp on what you're asking. Why is there more complaining than praise? That's just human nature. Also, paying attention to the bad is more productive than to the good. People are always looking to improve. Why the seeming disconnect between doing things you love and start ups? A start up, with its associated (hopeful) monetary stream not only lets you work on what you love, it also frees up time from doing what you have to in order to stay financially afloat. So, just having interesting hobbies is very sub-optimal.
- yters 18y ago
  It is your last point I am getting at. You seem to agree that the reason people are interested in startups is for freedom. Specifically financial freedom, meaning freedom to devote work to things other than the financial bottom line for living. So, what I am saying is that since we want freedom, we need to think about the best ways for becoming free. Everyone assumes best = startups, but no one has really discussed the issue to see if this is right. Startups are notoriously undependable vessels of financial freedom, so that doesn't make sense to me. Why accept the status quo? I'll put together a plan in a month or so and post it, hopefully generate more discussion.