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- same sex marriage should be treated equally to heterosexual marriage - the tradition of gender being strictly tied to genitalia at birth should be abolished,

- same sex marriage should be treated equally to heterosexual marriage - the tradition of gender being strictly tied to genitalia at birth should be abolished, with individuals able to change gender (and genitals) at their whim Oops Americans don’t agree on queer rights and equality oops - everyone should be treated equally and afford equal protection under the law, regardless of where they were born or what the colour of the skin is or what their genitals look like Oops oops

strken 1y ago
Perhaps you could fix the things you all agree are bad before, or even at the same time as, tackling the ones that divide you.
- ____mr____ 1y ago
  And what happens when political actors capitalize on the things that divide you? What makes people vote against their own economical interest for the sake of preventing transgender care being passed or abortions becoming illegal?
- mock-possum 1y ago
  No. The things that divide us are more important to me, I want them fixed first.
dyauspitr 1y ago
Most people even on the left don’t agree with the gender aspect of your points. It’s a pretty minority view. Other than that we’re still at the point where most people will at least verbally agree with you that everyone should be treated equally (whether they believe it or not internally is another matter).
ballastrade 1y ago
> the tradition of gender being strictly tied to genitalia at birth should be abolished, with individuals able to change gender (and genitals) at their whim This is absurd. You can't just wish away your sex. It's a material fact.
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- mock-possum 1y ago
  You’re not paying attention. the biology of sex is an arbitrary generalization - it’s useful, but it’s not sacred. Gender is a tradition of play-acting we’ve been doing for so long that we’ve forgot that it’s just a game. What’s absurd is looking at the world the way it is now, and thinking to yourself, “yes, this is the way it always has been, and must always be.” What a mire to live your life in. Such a pity.

strken 1y ago

Perhaps you could fix the things you all agree are bad before, or even at the same time as, tackling the ones that divide you.

____mr____ 1y ago
And what happens when political actors capitalize on the things that divide you? What makes people vote against their own economical interest for the sake of preventing transgender care being passed or abortions becoming illegal?
mock-possum 1y ago
No. The things that divide us are more important to me, I want them fixed first.

dyauspitr 1y ago

Most people even on the left don’t agree with the gender aspect of your points. It’s a pretty minority view. Other than that we’re still at the point where most people will at least verbally agree with you that everyone should be treated equally (whether they believe it or not internally is another matter).

ballastrade 1y ago

> the tradition of gender being strictly tied to genitalia at birth should be abolished, with individuals able to change gender (and genitals) at their whim This is absurd. You can't just wish away your sex. It's a material fact.

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mock-possum 1y ago
You’re not paying attention. the biology of sex is an arbitrary generalization - it’s useful, but it’s not sacred. Gender is a tradition of play-acting we’ve been doing for so long that we’ve forgot that it’s just a game. What’s absurd is looking at the world the way it is now, and thinking to yourself, “yes, this is the way it always has been, and must always be.” What a mire to live your life in. Such a pity.