3 ms·
But you could. And you wouldn't even need a reason. In fact, you could ban AND make the whole conversation disappear. And nobody would ever know. That's a pr
by analog8374 1y ago
But you could.
And you wouldn't even need a reason.
In fact, you could ban AND make the whole conversation disappear. And nobody would ever know.
That's a problem.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoIt’s not a problem, you are owned nothing by participating in an online forum. Your participation is a privilege, not a right. You are free to participate elsewhere. HN moderates mostly transparently, which they do not have to do at all. That demonstrates respect for their participants, or ideals, your pick.
- stefantalpalaru 1y ago[dead]
- analog8374 1y ago"if you don't like it then you can leave" (to paraphrase) evades my point. My point (the problem) is that, when you do it this way, trust is right out the window. It looks like a forum but it really isn't. The conversation suffers from a taint.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoAll you have is trust. No evasion, those are the rules of the road as it stands in the jurisdiction of US web properties. If your point is "I don't like the law of the jurisdiction and its outcomes," that is a feeling and a choice, but the fact remains. You can either change the law or change the feelings. Again, participation is a choice and optional, and the status quo is unlikely to change.
- jrowen 1y agoEvery publishing platform in existence is owned by someone with a God-like authority. What alternative is there? Can you give an example of a "real" forum?
- TheBicPen 1y agoIt's a shame how many platforms are moving away from transparent moderation. I get that there are strong incentives to do so - a user that knows they're banned will immediately try to find a way to circumvent the ban. Shadowbanning delays that reaction if not stopping it outright. But damn does the concept feel dystopian. Like you're being ignored through seemingly no fault of your own. Surely that can't be healthy. And yet the platform is better off because the person isn't trying to circumvent the ban. And don't even get me started on replacing human interaction with AI for shadowbanned users.
- jrowen 1y agoWhy stop at shadowbanned users? A uniquely crafted custom world for every user!
- snozolli 1y agoyou are owned nothing by participating in an online forum. Your participation is a privilege, not a right. You are free to participate elsewhere. It's still cruel and dehumanizing behavior.
- nick49488171 1y agoIf he did this habitually, I think word would get around. This is a pretty small community.
- dang 1y ago> And nobody would ever know Considering how quickly they make new accounts, I think you're underestimating banned HN users by quite some margin.