fair point. the true society self-organizes at each level to cooperate with itself. they avoid tragic outcomes by noticing the coordination traps that lead to t

fair point. the true society self-organizes at each level to cooperate with itself. they avoid tragic outcomes by noticing the coordination traps that lead to them, and then not doing that. i disagree that one must be subject to the rotten institutions in order to care about or fix them. but this is a disagreement of method, not of result. i agree that seeking only the "best" can be a status-treadmill coordination trap. i turn away from this as well. i have a strong distaste when "cooperation" is imposed from without. it is unstable. (does your collectivism rely on shared goals and reflective understanding? or is it enforced by artificially raising the cost of defection?) agreed that i responded not quite to your comment as written. apologies.