3 ms·

That's because all those apps are purposefully hostile and actively do everything in their power to make sure they don't work without their authorization. Solu

That's because all those apps are purposefully hostile and actively do everything in their power to make sure they don't work without their authorization. Solution: don't use those apps and maybe people will learn. Eventually, apps and technologies like this die in our digital landscape. Rest in piece Flash, you will be missed. 3D max and Photoshop, you're next. Real solution (for now): just don't give these assholes money. If you need to run the software, fine, but at least have the decency to steal it.

dangus 1y ago
Let’s be real, this “real solution” is a teenager in the basement solution. I’m not going to steal commercial software that I use to produce my own commercial work. I happily pay Autodesk their stupid $600 a year because I get that much value out of the application and then some. This idea that they are purposefully hostile because they don’t want you to steal their commercial product, or they don’t support an operating system with 2% marketshare is ridiculous. I totally understand why they don’t support Linux. It’s my choice to use an incompatible system.
- array_key_first 1y ago
  > happily pay Autodesk their stupid $600 a year because I get that much value out of the application and then some. Yes, you will, but big picture: eventually the software will die. Software isn't just a product, it's an extension of education and expression. Using paid-for commercial software is risky. What happens is young, aspiring professionals get taught that software, and then it's ripped from their hands because of the price. A lot of these young professionals give up or, more likely, switch to OS alternatives. And they make up the industry of the future. Eventually, the commercial product is pushed out because it can't keep up. But even if this doesn't happen, the product still dies. Because commercial software is ultimately held hostage. The BEST CASE scenario is you're eventually bled dry and squeezed. The common scenario is that the software disappears or isn't popular anymore, and you've lost hundreds of hours of skills. This even happens in dev spaces. If you chose COM+ for an application, you fucked up. You're stuck with it and it's painfully behind, well, everything. Or maybe you were seduced by how cool Oracle is. And it was... 20 years ago. Now, it's not a competitive database. But you're stuck paying for it. Had you just used MySQL or Postgres from the beginning, this wouldn't have happened. And then flash. Oh flash. Great technology, but it doesn't matter. The world moves on. If you chose flash for your website, you fucked up. And now 3D max. I give it 10 years. Blender is already ahead of it and all the professionals of tomorrow have jumped ship.
  - dangus 1y ago
    If a better open source alternative to Autodesk Fusion comes around I'll certainly use it. I'm not saying that I'm against OSS or getting better software for free. I'm just saying that there's a $820 billion global market of software that's obviously worth paying for, and I'm going to pay for software if it fits my budget and is the best choice for me. If all proprietary software that dared to charge a fee was destined to “die” this very forum wouldn’t exist. If you think companies like Oracle are going to die, go ahead and short their stock. Better start selling your S&P 500 and QQQ shares. Oracle has just about doubled in the last year. Good luck!
    - array_key_first 1y ago
      > If all proprietary software that dared to charge a fee was destined to “die” this very forum wouldn’t exist. I don't follow. All proprietary software IS destined to die. Even extremely popular proprietary software. Windows 10? That's destined to die. iOS 14? Destined to die. It's inevitable. If you're lucky, the overlords making the software will give you a new alternative. Hopefully the new alternative has all the functionality and isn't 100x more expensive. But OS doesn't work this way, because it can be forked. The way it works is that, in the beginning, proprietary software is really good compared to OS. As time goes on, the proprietary software rots. It either stays the same, obsolences, or actively gets worse. Usually the last one. OS software, by comparison, gets better and better. Eventually they intersect, and if you chose the proprietary tree, you lost.
      - dangus 1y ago
        Is it not possible for open source software to die by not having any interest or maintainers? Is it not possible for open source software with no forks to be taken offline forever because the creator decided to take it down? I thought when you were making the argument that all proprietary software is destined to die that you were actually making a real argument to say that it will die because it will become inferior to open source software that customers will prefer. But no, actually, you’re making a completely pointless argument about how a specific version of software will die because it has been surpassed by a future version of it, and you’re just cynically assuming that all proprietary software eventually gets worse, that you’ll actually want to go back to an old version and fork it to maintain it. But this argument is just plain false for a lot of people who use that software. No, my Autodesk isn’t going to “die” because it’s updated monthly and I can’t use the old version, just like a McDonald’s doesn’t “die” because the hamburger I ate from them yesterday doesn’t exist anymore.

dangus 1y ago

Let’s be real, this “real solution” is a teenager in the basement solution. I’m not going to steal commercial software that I use to produce my own commercial work. I happily pay Autodesk their stupid $600 a year because I get that much value out of the application and then some. This idea that they are purposefully hostile because they don’t want you to steal their commercial product, or they don’t support an operating system with 2% marketshare is ridiculous. I totally understand why they don’t support Linux. It’s my choice to use an incompatible system.

array_key_first 1y ago
> happily pay Autodesk their stupid $600 a year because I get that much value out of the application and then some. Yes, you will, but big picture: eventually the software will die. Software isn't just a product, it's an extension of education and expression. Using paid-for commercial software is risky. What happens is young, aspiring professionals get taught that software, and then it's ripped from their hands because of the price. A lot of these young professionals give up or, more likely, switch to OS alternatives. And they make up the industry of the future. Eventually, the commercial product is pushed out because it can't keep up. But even if this doesn't happen, the product still dies. Because commercial software is ultimately held hostage. The BEST CASE scenario is you're eventually bled dry and squeezed. The common scenario is that the software disappears or isn't popular anymore, and you've lost hundreds of hours of skills. This even happens in dev spaces. If you chose COM+ for an application, you fucked up. You're stuck with it and it's painfully behind, well, everything. Or maybe you were seduced by how cool Oracle is. And it was... 20 years ago. Now, it's not a competitive database. But you're stuck paying for it. Had you just used MySQL or Postgres from the beginning, this wouldn't have happened. And then flash. Oh flash. Great technology, but it doesn't matter. The world moves on. If you chose flash for your website, you fucked up. And now 3D max. I give it 10 years. Blender is already ahead of it and all the professionals of tomorrow have jumped ship.
- dangus 1y ago
  If a better open source alternative to Autodesk Fusion comes around I'll certainly use it. I'm not saying that I'm against OSS or getting better software for free. I'm just saying that there's a $820 billion global market of software that's obviously worth paying for, and I'm going to pay for software if it fits my budget and is the best choice for me. If all proprietary software that dared to charge a fee was destined to “die” this very forum wouldn’t exist. If you think companies like Oracle are going to die, go ahead and short their stock. Better start selling your S&P 500 and QQQ shares. Oracle has just about doubled in the last year. Good luck!
  - array_key_first 1y ago
    > If all proprietary software that dared to charge a fee was destined to “die” this very forum wouldn’t exist. I don't follow. All proprietary software IS destined to die. Even extremely popular proprietary software. Windows 10? That's destined to die. iOS 14? Destined to die. It's inevitable. If you're lucky, the overlords making the software will give you a new alternative. Hopefully the new alternative has all the functionality and isn't 100x more expensive. But OS doesn't work this way, because it can be forked. The way it works is that, in the beginning, proprietary software is really good compared to OS. As time goes on, the proprietary software rots. It either stays the same, obsolences, or actively gets worse. Usually the last one. OS software, by comparison, gets better and better. Eventually they intersect, and if you chose the proprietary tree, you lost.
    - dangus 1y ago
      Is it not possible for open source software to die by not having any interest or maintainers? Is it not possible for open source software with no forks to be taken offline forever because the creator decided to take it down? I thought when you were making the argument that all proprietary software is destined to die that you were actually making a real argument to say that it will die because it will become inferior to open source software that customers will prefer. But no, actually, you’re making a completely pointless argument about how a specific version of software will die because it has been surpassed by a future version of it, and you’re just cynically assuming that all proprietary software eventually gets worse, that you’ll actually want to go back to an old version and fork it to maintain it. But this argument is just plain false for a lot of people who use that software. No, my Autodesk isn’t going to “die” because it’s updated monthly and I can’t use the old version, just like a McDonald’s doesn’t “die” because the hamburger I ate from them yesterday doesn’t exist anymore.