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If you check out the thread, I think you’ll see it wasn’t me making it into a flamewar, but rather a bunch of folks with apparently no idea what Islam even is (
by lazide 1y ago
If you check out the thread, I think you’ll see it wasn’t me making it into a flamewar, but rather a bunch of folks with apparently no idea what Islam even is (like literally core tenets). And somehow thinking that me stating them is harshing on Islam, which seems really funny actually? Isn’t that the anti-Islamic sentiment in reality?
It’s like if people accused me of being antisemitic because I was just saying that Jews believe they have a special deal with god. Or that I hate Christians because I said they believe Jesus was the son of god. When that’s literally one of the core tenets of Judaism/Christianity.
I’m not hating on any religion here, just pointing out core tenets that are at the root of ideological conflicts!
Personally, I think this is a great example for surfacing the actual underlying problems here.
Which is that trying to apply your own core values to something/someone with wildly different core values from a position of ignorance produces bad outcomes for everyone.
And any sort of ‘high ground’ definition is just internal propaganda - which everyone does need - but has little to no connection to actual reality.
- dang 1y agoYou took the thread way off topic into a generic argument about religion that is more or less guaranteed, in the general case, to end up in a flamewar. Since your account is the one that started it and contributed the most to it, you're responsible for it. Then you kept doing it repeatedly after I asked you to stop. Not cool. Edit: We've had to ask you not to do such things in the past: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45031745 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45031745 (Aug 2025) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41821594 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41821594 (Oct 2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39082862 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39082862 (Jan 2024) If you keep doing it, we're going to end up banning you, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the intended spirit of the site from now on, that would be good.
- lazide 1y agoDang, this is like the 4th time you’ve done this on something that the reading of the thread later shows did not go in that direction. Seriously, what do you expect me to do? If my behavior was actually a problem, those threads would have ended up being actually a problem - but near as I can tell, they aren’t. And this it out of what, 5k+ comments? The only way I can think of to avoid this situation is to be so bland that there is literally zero signal being added.
- dang 1y agoI expect you to stop taking HN threads on generic flamewar tangents and stick to the site guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45516877 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45516877 is an example of the thread going in a flamewar direction, and while that user shouldn't be breaking the site guidelines either, your account is the primary one responsible. If most other users didn't respond by breaking the guidelines, that is commendable, but random. In the general case, they certainly would. This means that the way you were posting was flamebait.
- lazide 1y agoTell you what dang. If tomorrow you still really believe this is true, please do ban my account. It would be healthier for me to be spending more time with the real people in my life anyway - like the multiple Palestinian friends and co-workers who are refugees from Gaza. Instead of arguing with people on the internet. And no, I’m not joking.