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"I would imagine that it would still be OK to show renderings and animations so long as the actual physical product is shown as well." From the page, this does

by larrys 14y ago

"I would imagine that it would still be OK to show renderings and animations so long as the actual physical product is shown as well." From the page, this does not appear to be the case. It's stated very clearly: "Product renderings are prohibited. Product images must be photos of the prototype as it currently exists." It should be interesting to see though how people creatively get around this prohibition.

greendestiny 14y ago
A diagram isn't a product render. It'll be interesting to see how vigorous the enforcement is for all the grey area in between.
- kevinpet 14y ago
  I suspect that the real target is photo realistic renderings. I mean, one of the meanings of "rendering" is a drawing. I doubt they will have a problem with a patent-style sketch showing what the product is intended to be.
robomartin 14y ago
I'll find out soon enough. I think I might have the time to put up one hardware project on Kickstarter in about a month or so. The actual product will be shown in finished form. I'd like to use Solidworks animation to show some of the clever mechanical design that makes it work. Clearly there is no way to do this with the actual product as it would require aluminum to be transparent. There's also the case of some shots that are simply impossible to achieve any other way (animated cross sections). My guess is that the KS guys probably get this and are simply looking to host more legitimate, for lack of a better word, hardware projects. I can't see anyone who really knows how to execute on hardware projects have any issues with these restrictions. I'll certainly consult with the KS guys when ready and see what they say.
- staunch 14y ago
  Transparent aluminum isn't that big of a deal. Scotty whipped up a recipe on an old Macintosh in like five minutes.
  - RyanMcGreal 14y ago
    Using a quaint keyboard, no less.
  - robomartin 14y ago
    That's true. He even talked to the mouse in anticipation of Siri.
- nooneelse 14y ago
  Seems like they could get 100% of the ambiguity reduction they are probably going for with the "no renderings" rule by requiring that any renderings have a standard label. Some very noticeable and tasteful diagonal bar saying "Rendering" across the corner of the image would do nicely. Perhaps you could/should propose that to them as a sensible middle-ground position. I really like the "you have to show what you have now" part of the requirement, but getting a look at where the creator wants to get to as a goal is also very useful for choosing projects. And your cutaway animation also sounds like a knock-down case for why renderings are needed sometimes.

by larrys 14y ago

greendestiny 14y ago

A diagram isn't a product render. It'll be interesting to see how vigorous the enforcement is for all the grey area in between.

kevinpet 14y ago
I suspect that the real target is photo realistic renderings. I mean, one of the meanings of "rendering" is a drawing. I doubt they will have a problem with a patent-style sketch showing what the product is intended to be.

robomartin 14y ago

I'll find out soon enough. I think I might have the time to put up one hardware project on Kickstarter in about a month or so. The actual product will be shown in finished form. I'd like to use Solidworks animation to show some of the clever mechanical design that makes it work. Clearly there is no way to do this with the actual product as it would require aluminum to be transparent. There's also the case of some shots that are simply impossible to achieve any other way (animated cross sections). My guess is that the KS guys probably get this and are simply looking to host more legitimate, for lack of a better word, hardware projects. I can't see anyone who really knows how to execute on hardware projects have any issues with these restrictions. I'll certainly consult with the KS guys when ready and see what they say.

staunch 14y ago
Transparent aluminum isn't that big of a deal. Scotty whipped up a recipe on an old Macintosh in like five minutes.
- RyanMcGreal 14y ago
  Using a quaint keyboard, no less.
- robomartin 14y ago
  That's true. He even talked to the mouse in anticipation of Siri.
nooneelse 14y ago
Seems like they could get 100% of the ambiguity reduction they are probably going for with the "no renderings" rule by requiring that any renderings have a standard label. Some very noticeable and tasteful diagonal bar saying "Rendering" across the corner of the image would do nicely. Perhaps you could/should propose that to them as a sensible middle-ground position. I really like the "you have to show what you have now" part of the requirement, but getting a look at where the creator wants to get to as a goal is also very useful for choosing projects. And your cutaway animation also sounds like a knock-down case for why renderings are needed sometimes.