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I'm no lawyer, but I would think the purposes for which they read your email and the actions taken subsequently are blatantly illegal, and would invalidate the

I'm no lawyer, but I would think the purposes for which they read your email and the actions taken subsequently are blatantly illegal, and would invalidate the entire contract.

Jolter 1y ago
Yes, but severing would end up in court versus a very belligerent party, who would do their utmost to cost you money. An organization that prioritizes safety over ethics will just suck up the extra cost, apparently. There are companies and organizations out there fighting for what’s right in courtrooms. Invalidating troll-owned patents, striking down unfair contracts etc. Agency A was obviously not one of those organizations.
- balderdash 1y ago
  I worked for a very successful multinational that I think was relatively moral (at least very moral vs average - e.g. we at least stood by our commitments and contracts and didn’t try and re-trade them if they went against us) and they took the approach that they were never going to be a “soft target”: nuisance law suits - litigate don’t settle, unethical behavior by vendors or customers - we’ll see you in court. It was probably more expensive for a decade or so, but over the long run it saved a ton of money and hassle.
  - a_e_k 1y ago
    I remember that being the Newegg philosophy w.r.t. patent trolls.
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indoordin0saur 1y ago
Yes, especially since this sounds like a government agency. Some contractor snuck a backdoor into your email servers and is secretly reading them? Imagine what kind of corrupt practices, up to and including foreign espionage, that they could get up to. They could have been justified in sending in the FBI or CIA if this was the US. Probably would have put a stop to their vendor problems really quick.
- toyg 1y ago
  I don't need to imagine anything, it's just another day in the Belpaese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SISMI-Telecom_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SISMI-Telecom_scandal
  - cycomanic 1y ago
    > On 21 July 2006, Adamo Bove, predecessor of Tavaroli as responsible of security at the Telecom company and former DIGOS member, died in Naples by falling from a motorway bridge. Bove had discovered a flaw in the system which enabled people to enter the Telecom system and implement wiretaps without leaving a trace. "Falling from a motorway bridge"???!!
    - toyg 1y ago
      Better than "falling under a bridge" like this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi
mattnewton 1y ago
Also, not legal advice, but you absolutely should name and shame them for this

I'm no lawyer, but I would think the purposes for which they read your email and the actions taken subsequently are blatantly illegal, and would invalidate the entire contract.

Jolter 1y ago

Yes, but severing would end up in court versus a very belligerent party, who would do their utmost to cost you money. An organization that prioritizes safety over ethics will just suck up the extra cost, apparently. There are companies and organizations out there fighting for what’s right in courtrooms. Invalidating troll-owned patents, striking down unfair contracts etc. Agency A was obviously not one of those organizations.

balderdash 1y ago
I worked for a very successful multinational that I think was relatively moral (at least very moral vs average - e.g. we at least stood by our commitments and contracts and didn’t try and re-trade them if they went against us) and they took the approach that they were never going to be a “soft target”: nuisance law suits - litigate don’t settle, unethical behavior by vendors or customers - we’ll see you in court. It was probably more expensive for a decade or so, but over the long run it saved a ton of money and hassle.
- a_e_k 1y ago
  I remember that being the Newegg philosophy w.r.t. patent trolls.
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indoordin0saur 1y ago

Yes, especially since this sounds like a government agency. Some contractor snuck a backdoor into your email servers and is secretly reading them? Imagine what kind of corrupt practices, up to and including foreign espionage, that they could get up to. They could have been justified in sending in the FBI or CIA if this was the US. Probably would have put a stop to their vendor problems really quick.

toyg 1y ago
I don't need to imagine anything, it's just another day in the Belpaese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SISMI-Telecom_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SISMI-Telecom_scandal
- cycomanic 1y ago
  > On 21 July 2006, Adamo Bove, predecessor of Tavaroli as responsible of security at the Telecom company and former DIGOS member, died in Naples by falling from a motorway bridge. Bove had discovered a flaw in the system which enabled people to enter the Telecom system and implement wiretaps without leaving a trace. "Falling from a motorway bridge"???!!
  - toyg 1y ago
    Better than "falling under a bridge" like this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi

mattnewton 1y ago

Also, not legal advice, but you absolutely should name and shame them for this